I did this in ~2010 with an IPmux-24 https://www.rad.com/products/Multiservice/IPmux-24-IPmux-216-TDM-pseudowire-access-gateways
For a small business the amount of money for this, for me, would never be enough to do it again. Just switch them to VoIP and move to 2000+. On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 9:24 AM Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote: > 1) If you have an ethernet network in place couldn't you just steal a pair? > 2) Why bother with converting POTs ->IP -> POTS? Just get rid of the pots > line and replace it with a VOIP line. > > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 7:37 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> > wrote: > >> Good cordless phone. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 3, 2022, at 6:09 PM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote: >> >> >> Don't touch this. It'll be a support disaster and waste of your time. >> Have them contact the telco to run a new cable on the outside or bury it to >> that restaurant. Whatever doesn't involve you. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 3, 2022, 1:00 PM Daniel White <dwh...@atheral.com> wrote: >> >>> I've not personally done this, but I'd be a Grandstream HT801 for the >>> FXS port and a Grandstream HT813 for the FXO port would work. >>> >>> This document outlines the config - >>> https://www.grandstream.com/hubfs/Product_Documentation/Peering_HT8XX_with_HT813.pdf?hsLang=en >>> >>> [image: photograph] >>> Daniel White >>> Co-Founder >>> phone: +1 (702) 470-2770 >>> direct: +1 (702) 470-2766 >>> >>> Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >>> March 3, 2022 at 11:06 >>> I have done it with FXS to FXO ATAs. >>> >>> *From:* dmmoff...@gmail.com >>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 3, 2022 10:55 AM >>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] POTS line over IP network? >>> >>> >>> Yeah. The Linksys/Sipura SPA equipment could do that. You’d get a >>> device with the FXO port on one end (I think SPA3000) and then an ATA at >>> the other end. >>> >>> I don’t think that feature set survived the transition to Cisco…..I’m >>> afraid I don’t know the modern equivalent. >>> >>> >>> >>> Adtran Total Access can do that too, but that’s an expensive solution >>> for a gift shop. >>> >>> >>> >>> Asterisk boxes with an FXO card on one end and FXS card on the other…..a >>> little creativity with the dialplan and you’re off to the races. That >>> might be cheap enough, but this may not be practical for everyone. I’m >>> pretty certain it would work, it would just burn a lot of your time. >>> >>> >>> >>> I’d hope somebody here knows the current good/cheap option, but I’m >>> afraid I don’t. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On >>> Behalf Of *Craig Baird >>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 03, 2022 12:48 PM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>> <af@af.afmug.com> >>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] POTS line over IP network? >>> >>> >>> >>> Is anyone aware of a device that will take a POTS line from the telco, >>> convert it to IP, and then somewhere on the network convert it back into a >>> normal analog POTs line to plug into an analog handset? >>> >>> >>> >>> Basically, I have a customer who owns a gift shop. They have a >>> restaurant in a separate building behind the gift shop. Currently, they >>> have a POTS line that is strung from the demarc, and across the ceiling of >>> the gift shop. At the rear, it exits the gift shop and makes its way into >>> the restaurant where it eventually plugs into a phone. They want to get rid >>> of the wire that runs across the ceiling because it looks crazy stupid. >>> Unfortunately, there's a reason the wire was originally run that way--there >>> isn't really another way to get it to the restaurant without tearing a >>> bunch of stuff apart (lack of attic and crawlspace). However, I do have an >>> ethernet network in place between the two buildings, and can relatively >>> easily get a wire from the demarc to a network switch. >>> >>> >>> >>> So, what I'm envisioning is a pair of boxes. One of the boxes plugs into >>> Ethernet has an FXS port to plug in the POTS line. The other box, also >>> plugs into Ethernet and has an FXO port to plug in the phone. They see each >>> other over the IP network, and magically transport the POTS line to where >>> it needs to be. >>> >>> >>> >>> Do such devices exist? >>> >>> >>> >>> Craig >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> dmmoff...@gmail.com >>> March 3, 2022 at 10:55 >>> >>> Yeah. The Linksys/Sipura SPA equipment could do that. You’d get a >>> device with the FXO port on one end (I think SPA3000) and then an ATA at >>> the other end. >>> >>> I don’t think that feature set survived the transition to Cisco…..I’m >>> afraid I don’t know the modern equivalent. >>> >>> >>> >>> Adtran Total Access can do that too, but that’s an expensive solution >>> for a gift shop. >>> >>> >>> >>> Asterisk boxes with an FXO card on one end and FXS card on the other…..a >>> little creativity with the dialplan and you’re off to the races. That >>> might be cheap enough, but this may not be practical for everyone. I’m >>> pretty certain it would work, it would just burn a lot of your time. >>> >>> >>> >>> I’d hope somebody here knows the current good/cheap option, but I’m >>> afraid I don’t. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On >>> Behalf Of *Craig Baird >>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 03, 2022 12:48 PM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>> <af@af.afmug.com> >>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] POTS line over IP network? >>> >>> >>> >>> Is anyone aware of a device that will take a POTS line from the telco, >>> convert it to IP, and then somewhere on the network convert it back into a >>> normal analog POTs line to plug into an analog handset? >>> >>> >>> >>> Basically, I have a customer who owns a gift shop. They have a >>> restaurant in a separate building behind the gift shop. Currently, they >>> have a POTS line that is strung from the demarc, and across the ceiling of >>> the gift shop. At the rear, it exits the gift shop and makes its way into >>> the restaurant where it eventually plugs into a phone. They want to get rid >>> of the wire that runs across the ceiling because it looks crazy stupid. >>> Unfortunately, there's a reason the wire was originally run that way--there >>> isn't really another way to get it to the restaurant without tearing a >>> bunch of stuff apart (lack of attic and crawlspace). However, I do have an >>> ethernet network in place between the two buildings, and can relatively >>> easily get a wire from the demarc to a network switch. >>> >>> >>> >>> So, what I'm envisioning is a pair of boxes. One of the boxes plugs into >>> Ethernet has an FXS port to plug in the POTS line. The other box, also >>> plugs into Ethernet and has an FXO port to plug in the phone. They see each >>> other over the IP network, and magically transport the POTS line to where >>> it needs to be. >>> >>> >>> >>> Do such devices exist? >>> >>> >>> >>> Craig >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Craig Baird <cr...@xpressweb.com> >>> March 3, 2022 at 10:47 >>> Is anyone aware of a device that will take a POTS line from the telco, >>> convert it to IP, and then somewhere on the network convert it back into a >>> normal analog POTs line to plug into an analog handset? >>> >>> Basically, I have a customer who owns a gift shop. They have a >>> restaurant in a separate building behind the gift shop. Currently, they >>> have a POTS line that is strung from the demarc, and across the ceiling of >>> the gift shop. At the rear, it exits the gift shop and makes its way into >>> the restaurant where it eventually plugs into a phone. They want to get rid >>> of the wire that runs across the ceiling because it looks crazy stupid. >>> Unfortunately, there's a reason the wire was originally run that way--there >>> isn't really another way to get it to the restaurant without tearing a >>> bunch of stuff apart (lack of attic and crawlspace). However, I do have an >>> ethernet network in place between the two buildings, and can relatively >>> easily get a wire from the demarc to a network switch. >>> >>> So, what I'm envisioning is a pair of boxes. One of the boxes plugs into >>> Ethernet has an FXS port to plug in the POTS line. The other box, also >>> plugs into Ethernet and has an FXO port to plug in the phone. They see each >>> other over the IP network, and magically transport the POTS line to where >>> it needs to be. >>> >>> Do such devices exist? >>> >>> Craig >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > > > -- > > Carl Peterson > > *PORT NETWORKS* > > 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 > > Baltimore, MD 21202 > > (410) 637-3707 > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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