Is it just me, or does anyone else think that lethal robots are a really bad 
idea?

Jeff Broadwick
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> On Jun 7, 2022, at 11:08 AM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Maybe Tesla's new Optimus robot can help in future active shooter situations. 
> Send it in instead of scared humans and let it disable the bad guy.
> 
>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2022, 9:40 AM Andy Trimmell <atrimm...@precisionds.com> wrote:
>> I liked when the conversation started with people adding in some ways to 
>> possibly resolve things.  Ideas are great. Pointing fingers is divisive.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jan-GAMs
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2022 10:28 AM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> After republicans take office the police, firefighters, libraries and 
>> schools get defunded/reduced, I'm on a local fireboard, experinced it happen 
>> several times.  Don't complain to me about who's doing the defunding.
>> 
>> On 6/6/22 11:05, Steve Jones wrote:
>> 
>> There has to be a decision made on what we want from police.
>> 
>> You cant demand they shoot white shooters, but gently caress any other 
>> ethnicity.
>> 
>> You cant demand police be demilitarized at the same time you demand they be 
>> ready to engage a heavily armed operator at a split second notice
>> 
>> you cant demand police protect schools at all times while simultaneously 
>> eliminating 50 percent of the school resource officers.
>> 
>> You cant demand the school resource officers be a soft presence while you 
>> also want them shooting perps in the face.
>> 
>> You cant do any of this at all while also defunding the police.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Military is ready because theyre always ready, police are never ready 
>> because theyre always in sensitivty classes, or being arrested for doing 
>> their job because the media said so.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Firefightrs are no more capable of handling these situations than police, 
>> theyre all people
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Theres also insurability. Scene safety if paramount in all Emergency 
>> services. Firefighters dont run into active petrochemical fires the same as 
>> they would run into a residential structure fire. There is a line in which 
>> the insurance companies (and taxpayers) will not tolerate the risk. When 
>> monday morning quarterbacking gives way to tuesday morning reality, the 
>> demands will seem much less realistic
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I say we just burn it all. pick any longitudinal point and light her up. May 
>> only the strongest and fastest survive
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:51 PM castarritt <castarr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> We've neutered the police so effectively they can't do the job anymore.  We 
>> need terminator robots.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:49 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I have been shot at, but never been in combat.  I don’t carry a weapon 
>> because I don’t want that option.  That option is one of the initial 
>> starting conditions of a higher order ordinary differential equation. 
>> 
>> I prefer a linear equation. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> If a firefighter is armored such that they can probably survive a gunshot, 
>> that would steer their thinking toward rescue over taking out the shooter.  
>> Let the cops do that. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Jason McKemie
>> 
>> Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 11:09 AM
>> 
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> True, if they're properly trained and doing their job it would be more 
>> effective.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:05 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>> 
>> There was also the shooting down in the south, where they had a school 
>> "police" officer who stood back and did nothing.   That's not necessarily a 
>> solution either.
>> 
>> On 6/6/22 9:58 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>> 
>> Seems like we should just be giving additional funding to police departments 
>> so that they can have a regular presence at schools.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 11:08 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I may regret posting this but I had a thought.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> How about we let the fire department handle active shooters at schools. 
>> 
>> They know how to get there fast.  They are ready to go at an instants 
>> notice. 
>> 
>> They know how to breach any building and rescue survivors.
>> 
>> They have heavy protective gear on, just add a layer of kevlar. 
>> 
>> Or give them extra/different gear they can don on the way to the incident. 
>> 
>> They sure as hell don’t stand around outside discussing jurisdiction and 
>> strategy. 
>> 
>> They care more about rescue than they do about their own lives. 
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