After republicans take office the police, firefighters, libraries and
schools get defunded/reduced, I'm on a local fireboard, experinced it
happen several times. Don't complain to me about who's doing the defunding.
On 6/6/22 11:05, Steve Jones wrote:
There has to be a decision made on what we want from police.
You cant demand they shoot white shooters, but gently caress any other
ethnicity.
You cant demand police be demilitarized at the same time you demand
they be ready to engage a heavily armed operator at a split second notice
you cant demand police protect schools at all times while
simultaneously eliminating 50 percent of the school resource officers.
You cant demand the school resource officers be a soft presence while
you also want them shooting perps in the face.
You cant do any of this at all while also defunding the police.
Military is ready because theyre always ready, police are never ready
because theyre always in sensitivty classes, or being arrested for
doing their job because the media said so.
Firefightrs are no more capable of handling these situations than
police, theyre all people
Theres also insurability. Scene safety if paramount in all Emergency
services. Firefighters dont run into active petrochemical fires the
same as they would run into a residential structure fire. There is a
line in which the insurance companies (and taxpayers) will not
tolerate the risk. When monday morning quarterbacking gives way to
tuesday morning reality, the demands will seem much less realistic
I say we just burn it all. pick any longitudinal point and light her
up. May only the strongest and fastest survive
On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:51 PM castarritt <castarr...@gmail.com> wrote:
We've neutered the police so effectively they can't do the job
anymore. We need terminator robots.
On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:49 PM Chuck McCown via AF
<af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
I have been shot at, but never been in combat. I don’t carry a
weapon because I don’t want that option. That option is one
of the initial starting conditions of a higher order ordinary
differential equation.
I prefer a linear equation.
If a firefighter is armored such that they can probably
survive a gunshot, that would steer their thinking toward
rescue over taking out the shooter. Let the cops do that.
*From:* Jason McKemie
*Sent:* Monday, June 6, 2022 11:09 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...
True, if they're properly trained and doing their job it would
be more effective.
On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:05 PM Robert
<i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
There was also the shooting down in the south, where they
had a school "police" officer who stood back and did
nothing. That's not necessarily a solution either.
On 6/6/22 9:58 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
Seems like we should just be giving additional funding to
police departments so that they can have a regular
presence at schools.
On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 11:08 AM Chuck McCown via AF
<af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
I may regret posting this but I had a thought.
How about we let the fire department handle active
shooters at schools.
They know how to get there fast. They are ready to go
at an instants notice.
They know how to breach any building and rescue
survivors.
They have heavy protective gear on, just add a layer
of kevlar.
Or give them extra/different gear they can don on the
way to the incident.
They sure as hell don’t stand around outside
discussing jurisdiction and strategy.
They care more about rescue than they do about their
own lives.
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