Thanks yes, I've got GenieACS installed but it is a steep learning curve.
Very time consuming to get going and it's documentation is abysmal.  I'm
going to get a demo of that software but I understand why now their website
is absent of any screen shots etc.  Its UI is probably not too good.   But
I'm going to look anyway.  Thanks for the recommendation.



On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 10:58 AM D. Bernardi <dberna...@zitomedia.net>
wrote:

>
>
> Calix doesn't really fit our business model. We
> have them through acquisitions only and phase them out where possible.
>
> Friendly's cost has many different components. We
> are under NDA but a one-time cost, including
> professional services and set up licensed for 40k
> devices was about what others charge per device per month, or a cup of
> coffee.
>
> Server is nothing special.
> Processor: 8 Cores
> Memory: 64 GB RAM minimum
> Storage: Local 1000 GB or more in RAID1 SSD Drives with latency < 1ms
> Network: Interface Gigabit Ethernet NICs
> Operating: System Windows Server 2016 (64-bit) or higher
>
> Yes, unfortunately the portal component is still
> Windows for now but you can separate out the
> other functions (database and engine) onto
> Linux.  We decided to keep in all on one platform for now.
>
> Add in yearly maintenance and it's still
> significantly more cost effective than all others
> we evaluated, or every vendors' own proprietary solution.
>
>
> Another alternative is to roll your
> own.  GenieACS is what I originally used, and
> still do for a small deployment (change default
> passwords and set the SSID/passphrase for a small
> standalone managed WiFi service on ~20
> ONTs).  The person that wrote it is/was for hire
> as well.  For simple provisioning, it's probably all you would ever need.
>
>
> Oh, I forgot to mention TR-069 is a pig (can be
> lots of traffic/packets if you use the entire
> paramter tree and at frequent intervals) but
> TR-369 is gaining momentum.  Friendly supports it
> (I belive GenieACS does as well) but CPE vendors need to get on the ball.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
>
> At 09:41 AM 9/12/2022, Steven Kenney wrote:
> >Calix cloud actually auto-manages wifi freqs and
> >such.  Did you ever try that?  Reason is that
> >they are not supporting some of our combo
> >gateways so if they don't, as well as not
> >supporting Mikrotik either it may be time to
> >jump ship and find something more affordable and
> >with the ability to handle a wider variety of
> >products.  Their cloud does work pretty good
> >though, but no on PREM.  I like you prefer all
> >things to be on prem.  Any estimate on what you
> >paid for the server? You can hit me off
> >list.  Just curious to see how much per 1k customers etc.Â
> >
> >On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 9:38 AM D. Bernardi
> ><<mailto:dberna...@zitomedia.net>dberna...@zitomedia.net> wrote:
> >
> >Pricing was pretty flexible.  I think cloud is
> >recurring per device and on-prem is one-time
> >(based on a block of devices) and then a yearly
> >maintenance fee.  Far less than other products.
> >
> >They also have some additional modules, like QoE
> >that we are looking at to keep WiFi statistics
> >over time.  We also haven't started using WiFi
> >optimization yet but the goal is to scan in home
> >WiFi networks and make adjustments, similar to
> >Plume.  The other thing we expect to start using
> >is automating the required FCC speedtests.
> >
> >
> >At 09:20 AM 9/12/2022, Steven Kenney wrote:
> > >Also thanks, that is one service I hadn't seen
> > >yet.   Are they price per sub or yearly etc?
> > >
> > >On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 9:09 AM D. Bernardi
> > ><<mailto:dberna...@zitomedia.net>dberna...@zitomedia.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >DOCSIS cable modems cannot be managed with TR-069
> > >per the Cable Labs specifications.  However
> > >embedded router (e-router) can as well as e-MTA.
> > >
> > >I'm using Friendly Technologies (on-premise, not
> > >cloud) but mainly for collecting WiFi statistics
> > >and troubleshooting (including Calix ONTs), not
> > >provisioning.  They have a cloud-based demo
> > >platform that you can point your device to for testing.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >At 08:42 AM 9/12/2022, Steven Kenney via AF wrote:
> > > >Anyone use it?  We used it for our fiberr
> > > >deployment but most of it is already
> > > >managed.  But we will be adding a new liine of
> > > >Docsys gateways out there we want to control and
> > > >will not integrate with Calix's servers.‚  They
> > > >won't support them either as it is only in their
> > > >best interests to support their own
> > > >devices..  There are a couple open sourcced ACS
> > > >servers out there but nothing that seems user
> > > >friendly enough for our staff to use.Â
> > > >
> > > >Anyone recommend any software, that is
> > > >reasonable and easy to use? Online services etc?
> > > >
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