Regardless of maintenance and upkeep, the thing I can see right up front would be energy density. How many propane semis are there?
On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 10:14 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have noticed that large generators everywhere seem to all be diesel, and > it’s something I’ve often wondered about. Propane can be stored for > decades. Diesel breaks down, gels, and grows algae. So I’ve always gone > with propane and just got the oversized tank. I can’t imagine a heater for > the tank is that huge of a problem (but I’ve never done it either). > > > > What is it that makes diesel more attractive for the larger generators? > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2022 9:23 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup > > > > You can do something for it - heaters or maybe an additive. Keep in mind > all the really big data centers are all diesel (remember when NYC went dark > during the hurricane?) > > > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 9:14 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Wouldn’t diesel gel at -20F? > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2022 8:55 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup > > > > When I looked at propane for a standby generator at the data center I > calculated it out as a 3000 gal tank at -20F to be able to provide > sufficient flow for a 125k generator. Or it needed a propane boiler to > turn liquid to gas. > > > > I went with diesel :-) > > > > Mark > > > > On Nov 15, 2022, at 11:43 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: > > > > How big is your propane tank? > > > > In the cold temps you need a large tank that is mostly full to keep the > pressure high so it stays a vapor. > > > > If the tank is small and/or below ~40% full then in the cold temps it > doesn’t stay a vapor and the engine won’t run. > > > > This site has a good explanation: > > > > https://www.hunker.com/13418816/how-does-cold-affect-propane-tanks > > > > > > -Sean > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 5:00 PM lists gogebicrange.net < > li...@gogebicrange.net> wrote: > > Sean, > > We have had a bear of a time getting out propane generator to start below > 10 degrees and defiantly below zero. What system are you using and does it > start in the cold? Everything I have found commercially available is setup > for a grid tie with a small heater on the carb that runs on grid power. > > > > Thanks, > > Brandon > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett > *Sent:* Saturday, November 12, 2022 2:44 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup > > > > In addition to froth-pak, be sure to tilt them at [latitude] + 23.5. > > > > We are at 40 north so we tilt the panels at about 65* > > > > 40 + 23.5 = 63.5* > > > > At that angle when there’s any amount of direct sunlight it slides pretty > quick. > > > > But we also have a propane generator on-site because the stars don’t > always align just right :-/ > > > > -Sean > > > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 3:02 PM James Howard <ja...@litewire.net> wrote: > > I have a vague memory of a thread in bygone years about testing different > kinds of coatings to help with buildup of snow/ice but I can’t find the > thread and don’t remember if it was about solar panels or dish antennas. > > > > The only thing I can find when I search my archive is about using > froth-pak on the back of the panels. Are there any other options that work? > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > > Sean Heskett > > ZIRKEL > Internet • WiFi • Phone • TV > 970-871-8500 x100 - Office > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > > Sean Heskett > > ZIRKEL > Internet • WiFi • Phone • TV > 970-871-8500 x100 - Office > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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