Big circle.  I am at the top, all you guys are to the left or right of me going 
down the sides of the circle, at the bottom we find q anon, antifa, proud boys, 
ISIS, Putin, MSNBC etc etc.  

I’ma gonna stay right on top dead center.  

Best Regards,
Chuck McCown

McCown Technology Corporation 
8401 N Commerce Dr
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503 Office
435-830-4306 Cell
www.mccowntech.com
www.microtrench.pro
www.terabitnetworks.com

From: Jason McKemie 
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 5:12 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It has begun

I wouldn't put Putin on the left. Having said that, it's my opinion that the 
far left and far right converge, no meaningful difference as far as their 
damage potential to humanity.

I agree with Steve that actual centrists are what is needed, and along with it 
some compromise between parties.


On Fri, Mar 24, 2023, 6:15 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

  Karl Marx
  Lenin
  Stalin
  Putin

  Pretty sure those dudes were far worst than Trump
  Even Castro
  Kim Jong Un

  Seriously you thing the far left are better?  

  From: Darin Steffl 
  Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 3:54 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Cc: Chuck McCown 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It has begun

  The extreme left is still better than the extreme right. 

  I don't agree with either sides' extremes but if I had to pick one side, 
everyone being taken care of, like socialism, I'd pick that over the extreme 
right who wants to murder anyone different than them. Like far right pastors 
and supporters who call for violence and murder of gay people, people of color, 
and liberals. I can find thousands of posts and video from Republicans calling 
for sick things but very few liberals saying the same things. 

  I don't see far left people calling for violence and murder of people they 
disagree with.

  So while there are two sides, one side is better than the other, as in less 
violent and extreme.

  I'd take free college for all, free Healthcare, and more from the extreme 
left over the extreme right who wants to ban books, kill people they disagree 
with, try to overturn elections, cheat, lie, steal, etc. Again, the left is the 
better choice when it comes to empathy and taking care of people. 

  While an average republican might not agree with the far right, their silence 
is the same as being complicit in their sick beliefs.

  At least an average Democrat calls out the far left people like I do. I don't 
agree in wiping out all student loans, for example. And I've contacted 
democrats I've voted for to voice my opinions.

  I don't see Republicans calling out far right politicians who are spewing 
hate everyday. I wish they would but since they aren't, I assume they agree 
with the hate speech and calls for violence.

  The right is far sicker than the left in every regard. Donald being elected 
over Hillary will go down in history as one of the worst political events in 
our country. We would be a much nicer and stable country if Hillary won. The 
racists, bigots, and violent people would mostly be hiding still but Donald 
gave them permission to act out their hate when he was elected. It's very sad.

  People who still support Donald are bullies and hate America at this point.

  On Fri, Mar 24, 2023, 4:37 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

    Ouchie!
    You called me the C word...


    From: Robert 
    Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 3:32 PM
    To: af@af.afmug.com 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It has begun

    exactly this...  What I have learned is there is such a thing as a good 
cult, which is what I consider the Mormon church to be.  They have a few 
extreme points of view but on the whole they treat everyone ( now including 
other races ) reasonably...   And they care about kids and back it up.


    On 3/24/23 2:12 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

      I loved what the Gov of Utah told a bunch of school kids yesterday.  

      “Republicans are wrong about Democrats and Democrats are wrong about 
Republicans. Why? Here’s why — because, what we’re doing now is we’re only 
listening to the most extreme voices in those parties. So Republicans are only 
listening to the craziest Democrats and assuming that all Democrats are like 
that. Democrats are only listening to the craziest Republicans and assuming all 
Republicans are like that. When the difference between the average Democrat and 
the average Republican, really isn’t that big.” 

      From: Mike Hammett 
      Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 12:37 PM
      To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It has begun

      There's no meaningful difference between authoritarian left and 
authoritarian right, which are what catch the most attention.




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      Intelligent Computing Solutions

      Midwest Internet Exchange

      The Brothers WISP






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      From: "Darin Steffl" mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com
      To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com
      Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 9:40:58 PM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It has begun


      To be fair, anything left leaning is better for humanity. The right 
doesn't seem to care about anyone different than them. There's very little 
empathy from the right so if AI is here, it's best that it cares about all 
people in the information it provides. 

      Don't bite my head off. I'm socially liberal and fiscally conservative. I 
care about all people, even if I don't like them.

      On Thu, Mar 23, 2023, 6:25 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

        
https://techcrunch.com/2023/03/23/openai-connects-chatgpt-to-the-internet/



        I have to admit, Ive been using the shit out of chatgpt, from writing 
configs, to search engine replacement that actually answers questions, and just 
general fuckery to see what I can get it to do. It wont kill engineers or turn 
off exhaust systems in the building if you were curious. It does have a massive 
left leaning political bias.

        But some of the stuff it couldnt do because it wasnt connected to the 
internet, so now ill be back at it. I hope i can get it to do some wargames 
stuff.

        ...

        would you like to play a game


        Sure, I would love to play a game with you! What game would you like to 
play?



        global thermo nuclear warfare


        I'm sorry, but I cannot play a game of global thermonuclear warfare 
with you as it is not a real game, but rather a fictional concept popularized 
by the 1983 film "WarGames." Additionally, it is not appropriate to simulate a 
scenario involving nuclear weapons as it could be potentially harmful and 
insensitive to those affected by nuclear weapons in the past. Is there another 
game you would like to play instead?''

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