It's on the $300 China one, $1000 China one, and the $4000+ VeEx/Exfo...I
have to assume it's on all of them.

On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 2:25 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I know there’s a safety feature like that on some OTDR’s.  I don’t know
> what this bunch was using.
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> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 19, 2023 1:28 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTDR transmit power
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> On Calix optics they say it's OK if the OTDR hits it with 1650.  I don't
> think an OTDR will shoot if it sees 1310/1490.
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> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 1:03 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Oh I 100% believe they could do it.  If I knew tx power of the OTDR it
> would be easy to estimate how close they’d have to be to exceed the
> overload threshold of the transceiver.
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> “Dynamic Range” has to be a diff between Tx and sensitivity …..or so I
> would assume.  If it is then I could guess that maybe half the range is
> from Tx and half from Rx?  So a 50dB range might mean +25Tx?  I mean that
> all seems plausible to me, but it’s a lot of assuming.  I just wish this
> number was on the spec sheet.
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> The alleged location of the case they were in was over 200,000 ft away.  A
> ZR is a bit sensitive, but that OTDR would have to be pretty damn strong to
> nuke it from that distance.  Maybe it is that strong, or maybe they’re
> lying to me.  So a second part of the equation is whether I trust what this
> crew tells me in the future.  With same guys we had a link we were
> troubleshooting suddenly come up 20 minutes after they were “hands off”.
> So I already think they might be compulsive bullshitters.
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> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 19, 2023 11:57 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Cc:* ch...@go-mtc.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTDR transmit power
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> These guys think so:
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> https://content.jwplatform.com/previews/IQitGvAV
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> Best Regards,
> Chuck McCown
>
> McCown Technology Corporation
> 8401 N Commerce Dr
> Lake Point, Utah 84074
> 801-250-9503 Office
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> www.mccowntech.com
> www.microtrench.pro
> www.terabitnetworks.com
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> *From:* dmmoff...@gmail.com
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 19, 2023 9:23 AM
>
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
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> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OTDR transmit power
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> Does anyone know how strong the pulses from an OTDR might be?  Is there a
> rule of thumb to guess that based on the dynamic range?
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> I’m trying to determine if a dark fiber provider might have blasted a ZR
> optic with an OTDR at close range.  We know they were out testing recently,
> and the manufacturer is saying receiver may have been overloaded and the
> link is way too long for the far end transceiver to have done it.
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> I’m not out to blame anybody, this is just an educational exercise.
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