That's clever!  Nice tip, thanks.

On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 3:15 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

> There is a band pass filter you can add for shooting over live fiber.
>
>
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 19, 2023 11:27 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTDR transmit power
>
> On Calix optics they say it's OK if the OTDR hits it with 1650.  I don't
> think an OTDR will shoot if it sees 1310/1490.
>
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 1:03 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh I 100% believe they could do it.  If I knew tx power of the OTDR it
>> would be easy to estimate how close they’d have to be to exceed the
>> overload threshold of the transceiver.
>>
>> “Dynamic Range” has to be a diff between Tx and sensitivity …..or so I
>> would assume.  If it is then I could guess that maybe half the range is
>> from Tx and half from Rx?  So a 50dB range might mean +25Tx?  I mean that
>> all seems plausible to me, but it’s a lot of assuming.  I just wish this
>> number was on the spec sheet.
>>
>>
>>
>> The alleged location of the case they were in was over 200,000 ft away.
>> A ZR is a bit sensitive, but that OTDR would have to be pretty damn strong
>> to nuke it from that distance.  Maybe it is that strong, or maybe they’re
>> lying to me.  So a second part of the equation is whether I trust what this
>> crew tells me in the future.  With same guys we had a link we were
>> troubleshooting suddenly come up 20 minutes after they were “hands off”.
>> So I already think they might be compulsive bullshitters.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 19, 2023 11:57 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Cc:* ch...@go-mtc.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTDR transmit power
>>
>>
>>
>> These guys think so:
>>
>> https://content.jwplatform.com/previews/IQitGvAV
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>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Chuck McCown
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>>
>>
>> *From:* dmmoff...@gmail.com
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 19, 2023 9:23 AM
>>
>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OTDR transmit power
>>
>>
>>
>> Does anyone know how strong the pulses from an OTDR might be?  Is there a
>> rule of thumb to guess that based on the dynamic range?
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m trying to determine if a dark fiber provider might have blasted a ZR
>> optic with an OTDR at close range.  We know they were out testing recently,
>> and the manufacturer is saying receiver may have been overloaded and the
>> link is way too long for the far end transceiver to have done it.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m not out to blame anybody, this is just an educational exercise.
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