I'm not sure if the life or risk of fire is significantly different or not
with LiFePo4 vs Li-ion, but they're more suitable for a lead acid
replacement because of the voltage and charging profile, if I understand
correctly.

>From what I've seen, they generally are fine with a lead-acid charging
profile, but you probably want to verify that it doesn't go above ~58v
(assuming this is a 48v system). A higher end BMS might be able to deal
with higher voltages, but I haven't looked into that, so I couldn't say for
sure.

I've ordered from 18650batterystore.com a couple of times. They seem to
have some of the best prices around, but there could be better options for
large quantities.

On Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 9:53 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

> I have had little lithium experience to date but I think the answer to all
> of your questions is YES.
>
> The solar guys have been quoting deals like this:  305ah 3.2 Grade B cell
> ($89) x 32 = $2,848 for 31kwh, 610ah, 51.2v 16s2p configuration for a 48v
> system
>
> That is 9 cents per watt hour.  Half the cost of lead acid, will do many
> more cycles.  Much lighter.  Much smaller.  I think that you should sell
> your stock in the lead acid battery factories.
>
> Best Regards,
> Chuck McCown
>
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>
> *From:* Brough Turner - netBlazr
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 5, 2023 5:38 AM
> *To:* Chuck McCown via AF
> *Cc:* Brough Turner
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 120v UPS with Li-ion or LiPoFe batteries - some
> questions
>
> I understand LiPoFe is preferable to Li-ion (longer life, less chance of
> fire).  Is this correct?
>
> Can the BMS compensate for a for lead-acid UPS's charging profile?
>
> Is there a battery with a BMS that can be monitored via a network
> connection.
>
> Any recommendations for where to buy batteries in pallet-level quantities?
>
> Thanks,
> Brough
>
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