That line from the vertiv manual is so cryptic.

If the there isn’t a standard set of registers for this purpose then there must 
be a specific AC meter it supports.  I don’t see one on the listed accessories 
in the literature though.

Meanwhile the same manual has explicit instructions for setting up to get data 
from a particular brand of battery controller with modbus.  On the topic of AC 
meters I just get, “oh yeah we can meters with modbus.”

I did send a message to support.  I’ll bet $5 they don’t know either.

Thanks for all the info everyone.


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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Modbus

Yes, and no.

The modbus protocol defines how to move data between two devices.  However, the 
contents of the data being passed is vendor-defined and there aren't any 
industry standards I'm aware of (although it wouldn't surprise me if there 
were).

Every vendor that produces a modbus-capable device usually publishes some sort 
of guide to the modbus registers for each device.   For instance, a quick 
google search turned up this document:

https://www.vertiv.com/4ac5f2/globalassets/products/monitoring-control-and-management/monitoring/modbus-protocol-for-bdsu-reference-guide.pdf

"modbus register map" or "modbus communication guide" or simply "modbus" when 
added to your vendor or product name often will turn up the right document.

Just FYI, A couple of years ago, I would have suggested you provide me with the 
vendor of the equipment, and I'd make you a firmware load for the sitemonitor 
serial module to be able to read this, but that codebase needs to be re-written 
to support the base 3.   At some point in the future I'm going to resume doing 
those requests in which case you'd end up with a module which pulls data from 
this device.   Doesn't help you right now though.





On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 10:25 AM 
<dmmoff...@gmail.com<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Is it likely that AC meters for monitoring circuits or subpanels have a 
standard message format?


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Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 10:52 AM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Modbus

Modbus is an ancient serial protocol to pass values back and forth.   It’s very 
open but also somewhat vendor specific.   You can send any message you like 
from A <->B but the two devices have to know what the specific message means.   
Various industries have defined the message content but I would be somewhat 
surprised if a Vertiv rectifier knows what to do with the information from a 
meter.

Tons of information online, and it’s not a hard protocol to code for.   Used to 
do it in BASIC years ago.     There are two protocols - MODBUS and MODBUS RTU.  
 The RTU protocol is much more difficult to work with due to timing 
requirements, MODBUS itself is just standard serial at a baud rate and timing 
of responses is not critical at all.

Mark




> On Oct 26, 2023, at 7:38 AM, Adam Moffett 
> <dmmoff...@gmail.com<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I've never used modbus.  I'm looking at AC usage meters that support modbus 
> over RS-485.   And the controller on my Vertiv rectifier says this in the 
> manual:
>
> "e) Modbus Protocol:  The NCU can communicate with an AC Meter using the 
> Modbus protocol."
>
> ....and that's literally all it says.  Is this something standardized where I 
> can expect any modbus capable AC meter to work the same?  Is this plug and 
> play or would I have to learn yet another discipline?
>
> If it's not an easy answer I can take it to Vertiv tech support.  Just 
> wondering if this group magically has the answer.
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