Purely for curiosity what if you want to lease a span that requires Regen? Do you negotiate to install your own amps? Or is it common for the DF provider to provide Regen?
On Mon, May 6, 2024, 9:51 AM Dan P via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote: > Not to mention Zayo has a way of adding on tons of random fees so that > $700 floor really is like a 1k floor > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Sunday, May 05, 2024 5:22 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic > > > > $700 seems to be Zayo's floor. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Zach Underwood" <zunder1...@gmail.com> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> > *Sent: *Friday, May 3, 2024 10:27:33 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic > > We pay $700 per month for a pair of dark fiber about 6km route from our > data center to one of our sites both in downtown Atlanta from zayo. We run > 40gbps 10km optics. > > > > On Fri, May 3, 2024, 11:04 PM Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com> wrote: > > We have seen an extremely wide range of prices for dark fiber leases, > it's one of these things where every situation and provider is > different. I have been quoted prices over $100/mo per strand-mile and > as low as $15/mo/strand-mile. A lot of the value seems to be what they > suspect you're going to try to do with the strands. 50 Miles to a > datacenter, you're gonna be running NxDWDM 100gig waves, big money. > Shorter local/metro distance that maybe gets you between your NOC and > a small/WISP style tower, or maybe grabbing a piece of an "island" run > that can't even connect to anything else, much more reasonable prices. > > On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 5:50 PM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> > wrote: > > > > For those of you who have dark fiber access, what kind of costs do you > have? > > > > I'm thinking more of the cost to access these strands? IRU costs, lease, > swaps with other providers, etc? > > > > I want some sort of ballpark costs to know what's reasonable when we > start looking at this over wavelengths for shorter paths. > > > > On Thu, May 2, 2024, 2:50 PM Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com> wrote: > >> > >> Mark, we do exactly this on a segment where we have leased 2 strands > >> of dark fiber on a 30mile path. The ends of the run have 8-ch DWDM > >> Muxes and we have two spots along the run where we have an OADM in a > >> splice case to drop out a wavelength. At those points, we set a > >> handhole next to the carrier's handhole, and they looped the 2 strands > >> onto a 12F jumper into our case, so our OADM is in our case, in our > >> handhole. Just be sure your optical margins are planned for any > >> potential add/drop points because each does have some loss. > >> > >> On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 12:41 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies via AF > >> <af@af.afmug.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > We may have the opportunity to grab 2 strands of dark fiber. These > will allow us to build a loop between two points on our network. We have > been told we can also break into this fiber within our loop. I'm guessing > when we break into this fiber they will just extend the dark fiber into our > handhole and we will be responsible to figure out what we do once we cut > into that fiber. > >> > > >> > I'm trying to figure out if there is a way to do this passively so we > don't have to depend on having our loop run though a customers location. I > was thinking of CWDM. I can setup a CWDM/DWDM at our site and send > multiple wave lengths down the fiber. Is there a way for me to break out > just one wavelength at a hand hole passively? > >> > > >> > Let's say I have a North/South run of 2 strands going though a hand > hole and I what to break out 1270nm for a customer. Is there away for me > in the hand hole, passively, to peel off just 1270nm. Put something like a > 1x2 splitter in on N1, N2, S1, S2 and send those 4 fibers into the customer > site. Then install a couple of 1270nm optics in a switch to preserve the > loop for that one customer. > >> > > >> > Do the optics do all the magic or are there some type of filters in > the DWDM/CWDM modules? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com > >> > > >> > Myakka Communications > >> > www.Myakka.com > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > AF mailing list > >> > AF@af.afmug.com > >> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >> > >> -- > >> AF mailing list > >> AF@af.afmug.com > >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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