Id love to be on ADHD meds, but that prescription availability/price is a
crazy risk. Folks find themselves doing wildly insane things when their
meds suddenly cant be refilled, like butchering their family.

As for the prescribed pot BS, I have found that most of the people with a
medical card didnt get it from their primary physician, they went to a mill
doc and got the bought card. They have all kinds of reasons why they cant
use the non intoxicating variants. Truth is theyre simply potheads with a
get out of jail free card who its best to find any of the other reasons you
can find to terminate their employment. Most of these types, its not hard
to find a reason thats not related to their dependence on a weed.

On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 1:34 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:

> People who take Vyvanse or even the generic equivalent probably wish they
> could make their own.  It ain’t cheap.
>
>
>
> I thought we were now out of the 6 months exclusivity that the first
> generic gets, but the price hasn’t come down, and there are still
> shortages.  Supposedly demand was up because people without any particular
> condition take it as kind of a performance enhancing drug.
>
>
>
> If it works for someone’s ADHD symptoms, then you don’t want to be unable
> to refill your prescription and go back to feeling like a 4th of July
> fireworks show inside your brain.  Oddly, people with ADHD can also be
> somewhat autistic, they can go down a rabbit hole focusing on one thing for
> hours, but they can’t multitask because of all the mental distractions.
> SQUIRREL!
>
>
>
> Sometimes I suspect social media is giving everybody the equivalent of
> ADHD.  I have 5 things to do today.  Oh, look, Facebook.  Tiktok.  Texts.
> Now where did the day go?
>
>
>
> It makes me feel like a drug dealer selling Internet.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
> *Sent:* Monday, May 6, 2024 12:57 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Cc:* ch...@go-mtc.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pot
>
>
>
> After my last meth lab blew up my motor home, I quit doing it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* dmmoff...@gmail.com
>
> *Sent:* Monday, May 6, 2024 11:07 AM
>
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pot
>
>
>
> I started on lisdexamfetamine recently.  My productivity is much higher.
> My focus still drifts elsewhere, but I find I recenter on my main task more
> quickly.
>
>
>
> ADHD is profoundly genetic by the way.  If your son has it then you or his
> mother does.  The current thinking is that it’s so widespread because it’s
> a survival adaptation which happens to not always fit well into the
> structures of our modern life.  A study in Kenya compared a nomadic
> population with a settled one.  The genes responsible are well known, so
> they could identify who in each population had them and compare their
> outcomes.  Among the settled population the kids with ADHD genes had worse
> grades in school, and the adults were less well nourished.  Among the
> hunter-gatherer nomads, the people with ADHD genes were more well
> nourished.
>
>
>
> We probably shouldn’t medicate kids for it as much as we do, but I’m
> saying in my case a little bump of amphetamine in the morning does me
> good.
>
>
>
> -Adam
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Friday, May 03, 2024 3:50 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pot
>
>
>
> OK, looking at it another way. Some people need meds to be normal. My son
> has a prescription for lisdexamfetamine because he has ADHD. He's not
> impaired, and it's not like he's a meth head.
>
> That said, I can see a problem if your employee wants to smoke a joint in
> the workplace. Bigtime secondhand smoke problem. And if you don't want him
> operating machinery or vehicles, your insurance company would probably
> agree.
>
> Has he asked to bring his emotional support alligator to work yet?
>
> ---- Original Message ----
> From: "Jan-GAMs"
> Sent: 5/3/2024 2:20:33 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pot
>
> First I would ask for the Dr. to call me.  2nd I would suspend the
> employee until the Dr. calls me.  It could be a type of pot that doesn't
> impair but I wouldn't want to take the chance.  Third, I'd find someone not
> impaired and have them do the job.  Put the doper in charge of a broom
> until layoff time.
>
> On 5/3/24 09:40, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
> Darrin makes me think of Samantha.... oh, Samantha...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 3, 2024 10:21 AM
>
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pot
>
>
>
> My google-foo says it can be:
>
> Kevin
> Ken
> Gary
> Terry
>
> but I like Darren too.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 5/3/2024 9:09 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
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>
> “I have a card” = entitled Karen (I forget the name for a male Karen, is
> it Darren?)
>
>
>
> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
> Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
> *Sent:* Friday, May 3, 2024 10:29 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
> <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Cc:* ch...@go-mtc.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pot
>
>
>
> I have always had employees that were in rehab.  But never had anyone
> using at work before this guy.  He pointed to the fact he has a pot card
> for anxiety.  I have a card in my pocket that says I am old enough to buy
> whisky too, but I doubt any employer would be OK with me sucking a flask
> while working.
>
>
>
> I know certain prescription conventional drugs can make you not safe to
> operate equipment.  But this guy had to operate equipment as part of his
> job.  I would make an accommodation for someone that had pain meds
> temporarily that left them a bit impaired but not as an every day thing.
>
>
>
> This guy was MAX drama too.  One thing I tell everyone when I hire them,
> the only thing I really care about is no drama.  Do not bring your drama to
> work.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 2, 2024 10:01 PM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pot
>
>
>
> lite duty, no operating machinery or equipment
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 1, 2024, 9:18?AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think the ADA does want you to accommodate rehab appointments in
> someone’s work schedule.
>
> …..which I would do anyway.  If they’re working on getting straight I
> don’t want to stand in their way.  I don’t know if anyone goes to rehab for
> pot though.  Probably not.
>
>
>
> -Adam
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Forrest Christian
> (List Account)
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 01, 2024 5:11 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pot
>
>
>
> Utah code 26-61a-111(4)..
>
>
>
> "Nothing in this section requires a private employer to accommodate the
> use of medical cannabis or affects the ability of a private employer to
> have policies restricting the use of medical cannabis by applicants or
> employees."
>
>
>
> There are also federal court cases where the court has determined that
> marijuana use is not subject to the ADA.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, 10:42?PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
> wrote:
>
> If an employee has a prescription for pot for anxiety do we have to allow
> them to partake at work.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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