google search would only work if all ISPs added their locations to a google add campaign... If you pay them it probably works pretty well.

On 8/25/25 1:25 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Given how essential Internet is to life these days (and how much money they spend on Internet related services and devices), people are amazingly ignorant about it.

I’m also amazed how ineffective a Google search is for finding an Internet provider.  You’d think after all the money the govt puts into the National Broadband Map they would call somebody at Google and get them to link into it, maybe add some of their AI super sauce.  If they think people are going to broadbandmap.fcc.gov, they’re kidding themselves.

*From:*AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Trey Scarborough
*Sent:* Monday, August 25, 2025 1:05 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] rural areas and fiber

We  are seeing the opposite people from the urban areas are moving farther and farther out. They mostly aren't keeping the 40+ year old houses just buying the land and building new ones. Then someone from out of state buys a house moves in with the plan of working from home and is dumbfounded that they can't git gigabit+ internet for $30 a month.

On 8/23/25 11:13 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

    In some areas we serve where houses are a mile apart and the
    nearest town with a Walmart is 15 miles away, people tell me that
    when a homeowner dies (many are in their 70’s and 80’s), they
    won’t even list the house because nobody wants to live in the
    middle of nowhere.  It will be abandoned, or torn down to and
    turned back into farmland.  We no longer have small family farms
    with the farm family living in a house on the land, because you
    need to farm so many acres to make a profit.  If a farmhouse is
    near a town, it may become a rental house, but not when it’s 10
    miles from the nearest town or school.

    But I expect some company will be awarded $15K+ each to pass these
    houses with fiber.  If it takes 4 years to complete, the house
    might not even be occupied by then, and in any case, the 80 year
    old occupant probably doesn’t care if they have gigabit Internet.

    So will fiber make these houses suddenly desirable, and work from
    home people will move there from the cities, towns and suburbs? 
    Reviving these rural areas where the younger generation has moved
    away?  I guess that’s the vision, I’m not sure I buy it.  Well and
    septic and propane, quarter mile driveway to plow in winter, but
    blazing fast Internet, and you can have horses and chickens.

    Will they start building subdivisions out there once fiber is
    available?  I’m not buying it.  Am I wrong?




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