In my case, it's not exactly greylisting, but something is happening on Amazon's end that causing them to terminate SMTP sessions too early or something like that. Overloading perhaps? Them not sending QUIT seems to be the issue. RFCs say that's how you end a session. So whatever, delayed. Meh. I'm not changing my end because we already get enough crap. And because this is Exim & SpamAssassin on cPanel/WHM, almost everything happens at the initial SMTP connection: RBL checks, host rate limit checks, etc. As I said before, this wasn't happening when AF was on Beehive's servers and it's not happening with the WISPA lists.

I'm not trying to be bitchy or nitpicky, just trying to help Paul and Curtis understand what's happening from my POV.

On 9/17/2014 5:20 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
Received here at 11:59:41.

Jay, I would look for something specific to your situation.

Either Amazon just doesn't like you, or if you are doing greylisting, I would look at that as a possible cause.

Greylisting defers delivery on purpose, forces the sending MTA to queue the message, and usually relies on the next attempt looking exactly the same including source IP. Amazon may not use the same source IP, it may come from a pool of MTAs. Big systems that do greylisting may incorporate a mechanism to learn what IP ranges belong to the same organization, but you may not have that level of sophistication.

Or probably I'm completely out in left field, but I can't think why I would get every single email within a second or so, yet yours are being delayed hours.

My mailserver is on a Rube Goldberg connection due to a previous storm (it's at my house on an EoIP tunnel over AT&T U-Verse), so it's not like I have a particularly speedy setup.


-----Original Message----- From: CBB - Jay Fuller via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 4:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE



written 11:59 am , received 3:22 pm
(Fyi)

 ----- Original Message -----  From: Mathew Howard via Af
 To: af@afmug.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 11:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE


 I don't like fried pickles.
 ________________________________________
From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of James Howard via Af [af@afmug.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:30 AM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE

It seems to be bordering on libelous for someone to accuse us of not being able to stay on topic.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller via Af
 Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:16 AM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE


 mmmmm. fried pickles.

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Jay Weekley via Af
 To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
 Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:08 AM
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE


 I like pickles. Does anyone else?

 Adam Moffett via Af wrote:
 >
 > Test messages here never get ignored. Expect at least 4 replies saying
 > whether you passed or failed and possibly a hijack that turns the test
 > thread into some other conversation.
 > (maybe this one is the hijack)
 >
 >>
 >> Paul McCall, Pres.
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 >> Vero Beach, FL 32962
 >> 772-564-6800 office
 >> 772-473-0352 cell
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>> pa...@pdmnet.net<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net><mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net><mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net%3e>
 >>
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