I know it isn't a retail product yet, but I'd probably move to Runcom TVWS. 30 - 40 megabit per AP. One AP can do anywhere from one to four sectors. Much better foliage penetration. Much less noise. More expensive APs than Canopy 900, but if you're having to put up multiple APs to service the same sector, are you really ahead at all?
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Tyler via Af" <af@afmug.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 4:34:23 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium I love the 450, 450 is awesome, but 90% of our subs are on 900 MHz, what do we do there, where is our upgrade path, what is the replacement for PMP100 in 900 MHz? We have no alternative to 900 for most of our customers where we are, too many hills and trees. We are still deploying 900 MHz radios in large quantities simply because we can't use anything else. Sure would be nice to have an easy way to configure those radios, we (Animal Farm) have only been asking for that feature for the last 8 years, not like they didn't know about it or have the time to figure it out. Now they are giving it to us, but only on a platform where we don't really need it yet. While I understand that PMP100 is somewhat antiquated, Cambium is still making money on it and will continue to make money on it, so why not give us at least some development beyond bug fixes at least until there is a 900 replacement? Why not a 450 in 900 MHz that's using the newer hardware but still only 2x modulation. We would literally buy thousands of them within the next year. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mathew Howard via Af" <af@afmug.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 4:12:25 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium or even better, put up the ePMP in 5.1, and you could leave it there and not lose the 6db. ________________________________ From: Af [af-bounces+mathew=litewire....@afmug.com] on behalf of Adam Moffett via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 4:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium You should check out ePMP 2.2 firmware. The new GUI is much better. Not the same as Canopy, but it's a lot more familiar to navigate now. If you replace PMP100 with anything else it will be a forklift no matter what. The good thing about ePMP and 450 is they both have 5.7 and 5.4 in the same unit. Presumably your PMP100 is 5.7. Did they even make that in 5.4? So you put your new one on a 5.4 channel, start replacing subscribers, then switch it back to 5.7 so you can have your 6db back. The ones that might not work with the missing 6db on 5.4 you identify ahead of time and do them last. This is theoretical right now, but it's happening here in a month or so. --- [ "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com><mailto:af...@kwisp.com> wrote ]: ----------------------------------- You’re probably right about me. Honestly, my FSK is still all on 10.5, and my 430 is still on 11.2. I’d like some of the improvements to the GUI, but honestly, at some point you wonder if it’s worth the trouble and mini outages to do the firmware upgrades on legacy stuff. I guess from an operations standpoint though, especially if you automate things, it helps if everything works the same. And I will probably upgrade the old stuff, if only to avoid scrolling through a mile long sessions list. The argument for continuing to roll human and machine interface improvements into PMP100 is that’s what keeps WISPs buying Cambium, they can train their people and write their software and have it work the same across the product line. But evidently that logic was lost on the team that developed ePMP. If the sales strategy is to convince WISPs to convert PMP100 to ePMP, it will be interesting to hear what the recommended way is to do that. I am going to be very surprised to see an ePMP compatible framing mode put into PMP100, that’s surely not a minor change, but without that, are the only 2 ways to upgrade a tower from PMP100 to ePMP either find some spare spectrum, or do a 1-day forklift of all the subs? A PMP100 to PMP450 forklift can be pretty easy (except on the pocketbook) if you already have reflector dishes, we’ve found you don’t even have to realign the dishes. But replacing a reflector dish with a Force100 will probably take a little longer. Maybe not that much. The worst would be if you can’t have both sets of APs on the tower at the same time and literally have to take down every sub on the tower until you get an installer with a new radio out to them. From: That One Guy via Af<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 2:50 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium --- [ That One Guy <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com><mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote ]: ----------------------------------- ________________________________ I really wish that cambium was more forthright, I understand playing your cards close to your chest. we knew with 320 it was a dead duck, but Cambium (sales staff in particular) would never put out a clear answer on its demise. We all wear big boy pants around here, except ken, he wears biker shorts. We can handle the truth and would much prefer to plan accordingly. Im oretty sure that since 100 wont be getting .2 that gives us our answer, but it would be nice to have it formalized, Cambiums like a cheating wife, you know what shes doing, you know whats going to happen when you have evidence, but until you hear it from her mouth, you keep on painting the kitchen and mowing the lawn. Cambium, can we stop painting and let the grass grow? On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Aaron Schneider via Af <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: --- [ Aaron Schneider <aaron.schnei...@cambiumnetworks.com<mailto:aaron.schnei...@cambiumnetworks.com>> wrote ]: ----------------------------------- Hmm, this is odd - yours and Sean's messages came in as an attachment to an empty message... Anyways, yes, we are well aware that FSK is never going away, we've been the ones keeping it going for this long! We took a break from releasing FSK version from 11.2 to 12.1 and the next refresh release from that was 13.1.  I don't think there has been any full decision on the fate of future FSK releases but we are concentrating 13.2 and 13.3 on the 430/450 products and will see then.  I'll see if we can get a point release with the couple of minor (meaning to fix, not meaning "minor impact") items such as missing the None frequency. George you need to talk your boss into letting you go to Vegas. Imagine the discussions you can have once you get some libations in you and go on tilt at the blackjack table. :) -Aaron -----Original Message----- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+aaron.schneider<mailto:af-bounces%2Baaron.schneider>=cambiumnetworks....@afmug.com<mailto:cambiumnetworks....@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 1:06 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium --- [ "George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)" <geo...@cbcast.com<mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote ]: ----------------------------------- -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
