ptp650 works great in my neck of the woods tower to tower without colo interference and yes there is filtering and it does not use the entire spectrum unless you want it to. I have one on a tower with a ptp500 and another ptp600 along with ptp800 and 4 sectors of pmp450 with no issue. I have also installed 2 integrated ptp600 full links right on top of each other. I guess I need to do a spec anny with our 2 way guys and do a snap shot comparison.

On 9/24/2014 12:31 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote:
Fundamentally, no. But what you can end up with is a receiver front-end overload. This happens far too often on Rocket radios. Isn't the 650 a whole-band radio, like 4.9-5.9? I hope it would have some spectacular filtering for the fify brazillion $ they want for it.

I would shut your stuff down for 10 minutes and see what happens.

On 9/24/2014 12:00 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote:
INTERFERENCE DOES NOT ALTER RECEIVED POWER!!!

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:

    Just wait until you have people with AF5's in your neck of the
    woods. No overtly OOB emissions that I'm aware of, but it
    absolutely crushes anything on 5GHz in it's beamwidth and
    freq-use range. Atheros radios outside of the band also get
    overloaded and CCQ tanks.

    AF24 is amazing and firmware will only get better. AF5... kinda
    not a fan at this point. Same for just about every -AC radio from
    every manufacturer. Time will tell how Mimosa does though, I am
    mildly interested in those.

    Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
    SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>

    On 09/23/2014 08:29 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote:
    Since I run several of these in our networks as well as the new
    650 units. Ubiquity has a bunch of OOBE even that low if the
    power requirements are not being met.  I have had ubiquity on my
    tower colo'd with a ptp230 5.4 unit and I set the ubiquity in
    the 5.2 range and it completely knocked off our ptp230 link.  I
    had to turn the power way down below even min power levels
    before the 230 would come back up.

     If by turning your system down and levels do return to normal
    for them. Then I would take a closer look at your config on your
    AP to see if you can tweak it to meet standards and at the same
    time not mess with them.
     I tried running a ptp link colo'd on my tower using ubiquity
    and the Out of band noise was incredible. I had 50' sep and
    andrew dish with at least 120 deg out of center. The Ns5 was the
    one with 3' dish.

    Another thing to try is to  get someone who make gutters and use
    sheet metal to make an extended shield placed between the
    ubiquity and the 600s


    On 9/23/2014 7:05 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote:
    but i do really like the interface on the 650

    On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 7:04 PM, That One Guy
    <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
    wrote:

        This is really beginning to irritate me, Now the guy who
        replaced the gear is still blaming us for the problems
        here, I moved the ubnt gear clear down to like 5.1 or
        whatever the lowest channel is, the spectrum at this and
        the remote site are deplorable.
        The Signal/Noise ratio is moving around on the ptp650 and
        the Vector Errors are off the chart, but he still wants to
        blame our equipment.

        I can tell you it boils down to an improper system repair
        post disaster. I pulled screen shots, both before and after
        I moved our channels, showed them the issue with their own
        colocated radios, turned on assymetric channels, yes, they
        were running symmetric in a high noise environment, nothing
        could go wrong there, right?

        Now tomorrow, my boss is going there to unplug our radio,
        taking our customers down. Im betting some utter nonsense
        like capacitant power or our antenna shape ends up being to
        blame here.

        I know ubnt is shit and bleeds noise allover, this
        particular radio is a rocket m5 with the 30db dish and the
        shield kit. The link is 90 degrees off both of theirs (ours
        is west, they have one north and one south) I believe we
        have 30 foot vertical sep between it and their closest
        radio. I can see how a rocket would magically destroy the
        whole 5ghz spectrum and not have performance issues
        itself.I even cycled the UBNT radios to make sure that they
        actually did change channels.

        ATPC power ranging not matching current TX output and RX
        doesnt make any sense to me. Interference alone will not
        alter RX power unless its very very notable.
         And then to top it off its said it would be better to move
        completely off the band to 3ghz since it cant interfere.
        Yeah, great fucking idea, lets take the only semi clean
        spectrum left and burn it on a backhaul thats performing as
        it should because other people dont know how to
        troubleshoot their own damn gear.
        But the kicker to that would be "oh, you must still be
        interfering, that m365 is actually a 5ghz radio downconverted

        how bout this, climb the damn tower and fix the fuckup

        fucking meh

        On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 5:04 PM, That One Guy via Af
        <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:

            Im not doing anything, this is a not my chair not my
            problem issue.

            This strike blew everything on the tower, if it was
            electronic, it cooked, the switch was sitting on back
            of the APC and welded to it even tripped the breaker

            Im just curious with these if theres any issue with the
            ATPC on these bas boys

            On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 4:42 PM, David via Af
            <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:

                Inspect the cables or at lease switch one or both
                out at one end and see if a prevalent change is made.
                 Could be a feed horn but unlikely I would shoot
                for pigtails first.


                On 09/23/2014 02:38 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote:
                I just got done troubleshooting a 650 link for our
                landlord we are coloed with on a couple towers. I
                had not looked at the ptp interface since the 500.

                This thing is freaking beautiful, and I never
                compliment anybody, especially on a web gui.

                Sooooo much information, so easy to find.


                one question though, They have atpc set to -35 on
                these, does that basically turn atpc off, or could
                it cause a problem?

                Im pretty sure they have a loose antenna or
                damaged feedhorn/patch cables (this was a
                lighnting replacement of a ptp500, reusing the
                cables/feedhorn)

                The system statistics showed a variation of
                received power ranging from -47 to -78 with a peak
                of -110 , -78ish being current. Transmit powers
                show a variation of -15dBm up to 21 dBm (I did not
                notice the negative value at first). This would
                account for the range of  Received power except
                When the Status screenshots were taken, the
                transmit power on both units was at 21 dBm with a
                77/78 receive power on each side. If the output
                power is accurate, the receive power on the remote
                end would be at the peak, not the mean.

-- All parts should go together without forcing. You
                must remember that the parts you are reassembling
                were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't
                get them together again, there must be a reason.
                By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM
                maintenance manual, 1925




-- All parts should go together without forcing. You must
            remember that the parts you are reassembling were
            disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them
            together again, there must be a reason. By all means,
            do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925




-- All parts should go together without forcing. You must
        remember that the parts you are reassembling were
        disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them
        together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do
        not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925




-- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember
    that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you.
    Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be
    a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance
    manual, 1925

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