MT doesn't really give two "sheets" about the FCC.

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>

On 09/24/2014 05:37 AM, Glen Waldrop via Af wrote:
I can't get over the small gain MT uses.

It also bugs me that the FCC seems to be all about massive amps and small antennas rather than the reverse.

If it was actually about interference PTP shots with narrow beamwidth is preferred. I suppose it is too much to ask for those in our government that set the regulations to actually understand the tech they're regulating.

I suppose it could be the manufacturers are going with big amps and small antennas, but it seems that would cost more.

    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* Mike Hammett via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:33 AM
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance

    The SXT antenna were always too weak. Give me 25 dBi or give me
    death. Well, okay, I don't feel that strongly. I just won't buy it
    if not.



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    Mike Hammett
    Intelligent Computing Solutions
    http://www.ics-il.com

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    *From: *"Stefan Englhardt via Af" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
    *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Sent: *Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:30:07 AM
    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance

    We’re starting the move to .ac with MT now. The 922UAGS-5HPacD has
    the same dimensions as

    the 911/411 Boards so we just replace boards.

    We get good results with Mars Antennas with housing for P2P. The
    SXT-Antennas are to weak for .ac.

    The 19db Mars Antennas give good CPE/short range PTP with a small
    footprint. We use these as

    Sector-Antennas where we have to cover small areas.

    The .ac firmware adaption is quite new but we see stable results
    in the 300-400 Mbit/s range for short links.

    The .ac boards have faster CPUs so they may increase
    11n-Speeds/NAT Performance.

    The 922-Board has a SFP. Ethernetport has moved. Due to this the
    RFElements Stationbox XL do not fit.

    MT .ac does PTP and PTMP and is downward compatible to older
    boards with 11n/a.

    SXTs with .ac are not stable with the latest sw-release. So as
    always with MT you’ve to betatest

    HW/FW-combination to get it running smooth.

    *Von:*Af [mailto:af-bounces+ste=genias....@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag
    von *Rory Conaway via Af
    *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 24. September 2014 14:26
    *An:* af@afmug.com
    *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance

    Yeeeeaaaaa, I don’t’ think so.  If you use Ubiquiti you pretty
    much know what works and what doesn’t.  in reality, you use as
    few  custom features as possible outside 802.11 compatibility and
    limit the radios to Layer 2 bridges or nothing more than NAT
    whenever possible.  Try not to use any of the customer features
    although AirMax seems to be working pretty well.   You just don’t
    want to add anything that adds to processor overhead on an AP for
    Rocket M5’s if you have a higher density.  When the Titanium’s
    tanked a couple years ago, there was a huge hole in any kind of AP
    product with the ability to handle density due to the processor
    but nobody filled it.  It still hasn’t been filled to my
    satisfaction meaning we aren’t replacing Rocket 5M’s any time soon
    and we are keeping them at 50 users or less for another few
    months.  However, NetFlix and video streaming means we are pushing
    that down to a planned 30 over the next couple of months.  That
    numbers are just estimates but somewhere between 30-50 under heavy
    video streaming usage and AirMax will start causing issues.

    If you allow torrents or anything that opens up a massive number
    of connections, then the number of users per AP drops
    significantly which is why we run filtering on the back end to
    reduce that.  I’ve seen APs with less than 30 go apoplectic with a
    couple of wild torrent users.

    Rory

    *From:*Af [mailto:af-bounces+rory=triadwireless....@afmug.com] *On
    Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af
    *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:47 PM
    *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance

    :-) the ubntboys tend to not be all that informed they blindly
    swear by whatever the spec sheets and feature notices tell them

    On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Josh Reynolds via Af
    <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:

    For the first question, I have no idea, since the only released
    radios are PtP at this time. Pretty hard to tell.

    For the second one, "ubntboys" (at least the informed ones) don't
    run airsync, because they know it doesn't work well. :)

    Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
    SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>

    On 09/23/2014 09:06 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote:

        does it work? or does it work in ubntboys eyes like airsync?

        On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af
        <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:

        For clarification for EVERYBODY reading this post, ALL AIRMAX
        AC PRODUCTS HAVE AIRMAX OFFLOADING :)

        Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
        SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>

        On 09/23/2014 07:33 PM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote:

            The ptp-lites do have airmax offloading? I thought they
            didn't...

            We've had a link running for awhile, but it's got some
            noise issues, so it hasn't really been the best place to
            test these... that said, they've been running fine without
            any real problems that I've noticed.
            �

            
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            *From:*Af [af-bounces+mathew=litewire....@afmug.com
            <mailto:af-bounces+mathew=litewire....@afmug.com>] on
            behalf of Josh Reynolds via Af [af@afmug.com
            <mailto:af@afmug.com>]
            *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 9:49 PM
            *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance

            ptp lites are missing the internal shielding (i think?) as
            well as airprism tech

            they do have airmax offloading, but it's also a brand new
            product line... some bugs are showing in the software

            Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
            SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>

            On 09/23/2014 06:48 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote:

                These are basically beta release hardware? its missing
                some guts?

                On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Rory Conaway via Af
                <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:

                I don�t have one but from what I�m reading, it�s
                not quite ready for primetime.� I�m waiting.

                �

                Rory

                �

                *From:*Af [mailto:af-bounces+rory
                <mailto:af-bounces%2Brory>=triadwireless....@afmug.com
                <mailto:triadwireless....@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of
                *TJ Trout via Af
                *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2014 6:39 PM
                *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
                *Subject:* [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance

                �

                How are the rocket AC's performing for you guys?
                Throughput? Bugs?



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