If you want it to, just find a rock and hit your leg with it. Problem solved.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "That One Guy via Af" <af@afmug.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 8:40:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG list option being considered will my leg hurt when its over On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Paul McCall via Af < af@afmug.com > wrote: Of course, your mail client, SPAM filter, may put the request in a folder… Gmail seems to pick some random other folder to put the request in… indiscriminately From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 9:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG list option being considered What will we need to do? Unsubscribe/resubscribe or just reply to the authentication(s)? bp On 9/29/2014 6:20 PM, Paul McCall via Af wrote: <blockquote> Guys, As some of you are aware, PDMNet’s behind the scenes management of the AFMUG list as a service to Chuck McCown and his companies, involves hosting on an Amazon server. Some very good things have come from that decision so far… no mail delivery issues (no server issues, no blacklisting or greylisting issues etc. to our knowledge). The EC2 / SES platform is very robust, though overly complex at first blush. A lot more time went to getting this setup that we anticipated, but that’s life. It costs a little more to use this platform, (I know.. I know) but long term, I think we will be happy with it. One of the differences is the way the headers are handled. Out of the box, Amazon required us to “munge” the headers in such a way that we could customize them to meet Amazon’s strict mass-emailing rules. This causes some differences in the way the mail is delivered, causing a few of you who use a different type of threading than most of us, some grief. We are way PAST the discussion about what is “right” etc. Respectfully, lets move on from that “debate”. The only way that Amazon provides to do things in a more conventional email header fashion is to use their API. We knew this was an option when we brought the list live, but also anticipated a bit of a learning curve. And, indeed it was! We have gotten comfortable with the API and have been running it on our test Mailman list internally. Basically the API allows us / requires us to process each AFMUG subscriber as an authenticated / confirmed email address. Soooo…. In order to use the API, we need to authenticate all the current users of the list. We can send a batch through the API to generate the confirmation email to everyone, but before I did it, I wanted to give you a heads up. NEW subscribers will first join the mailman AFMUG group and once confirmed, will then get an Amazon confirmation immediately thereafter. Unsubscribing will also remove you from an authenticated user for the list. Assuming that we haven’t overlooked something (and, I am sure you guys will let me know that, LOL ) I would like to give a 48 hour notice that we will make the change, and you will get the Amazon email after that window. All in favor ? All opposed? Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net </blockquote> -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925