Really, they are worse than you think and far worse than any American 
technology company.  In America, you can get sued for violating patents.  In 
China, the military will tell you to get lost, Huawei is with them.  I can’t go 
everything here but just look up what 60 minutes found out, or CBSNews, or 
RockStar, or the House Intelligence Committee, or anyone else who tried to 
investigate them.   My vote, toss them out. 

 

Rory

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds via Af
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 11:43 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Huawei still at it

 

On that note, we shouldn't allow companies like Microsoft, Apple, and Samsung 
to attend WISPA either, since they have stolen things in the past.

Isn't that pretty much how world-wide corporations work these days? I'm not 
support Huawei here, I think they are as bad as you say... just trying to prove 
a point.



Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com

On 10/03/2014 10:37 AM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote:

        Fruit from the poison tree.  They basically laundered the technology 
long enough that they claim it’s now there.  

         

        They are working on the firmware for Vivint at this point creating a 
proprietary protocol for their system.  So, given their history, their 
relationship and foundation in the Chinese military, their resources for 
reverse engineering, and their pension to steal patents, and the fact that the 
United States won’t let them become a cell operator in the country, I’d like to 
see them rejected from WISPA.   We have a lot of manufactures as members that 
will now become targets. If I’m them, I’d be screaming to the rooftops to get 
rid of them.  Personally, I’m very unhappy they were ever accepted.  Once a 
thief, always a thief, regardless of how expensive your suit is.

         

        Rory

         

        From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
        Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 8:52 AM
        To: af@afmug.com
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Huawei still at it

         

        I know of the Cisco stuff. The whole world does. I was jokingly 
assuming that whatever new gadget Lewis was talking about was just ripped off 
from somebody else.
        
        That said...  I heard of them running some new 802.11 protocol in the 
lab and they're the first to do it. Maybe now everything is their own, but it's 
built on a foundation of theft.

        
        
        -----
        Mike Hammett
        Intelligent Computing Solutions
        http://www.ics-il.com

         

        
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        From: "Rory Conaway via Af" <af@afmug.com>
        To: af@afmug.com
        Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 10:10:16 AM
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Huawei still at it

        Cisco, Motorola, Nortel, Seimens, and many others.   They should be 
completed banned from all western nations for patent infringements.  Since they 
are now working with Vivint, there are other people that should now be worried.

         

        Rory

         

        From: af@afmug.com [mailto:af@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
        Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 8:02 AM
        To: af@afmug.com
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Huawei still at it

         

        Who'd they steal it from?

        
        
        -----
        Mike Hammett
        Intelligent Computing Solutions
        http://www.ics-il.com
        
         <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>  
<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>  
<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> 

        
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        From: "Lewis Bergman" <lberg...@texascom.com>
        To: af@afmug.com
        Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 9:11:12 AM
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Huawei still at it
        
        In addition to going to their headquarters for the regional WISPA 
meeting I spent Friday there in their R&D department. We are considering moving 
to their hardened routers from MT. Their price point is good but they have the 
same broken Cisco looking IOS as everyone except juniper. We are also looking 
at their fiber line which is why we really started to investigate them.
        
        They have a fully hardened router in a metal outdoor case with fiber, 
copper, and POE coming soon that I am very interested in.
        
        I doubt I have anything they want to steal. A corporate culture is a 
difficult thing to change. Not saying they need to or if thye do need to they 
want to or will. I like the fact they have SNMP management platform that will 
mange all their products. The down side is they seem to be unsure if it can 
even report failures of third party gear which would be a really great thing. I 
understand if it can't manage it as that requires all kinds of knowledge about 
the device and UI interface adjustments. I can't see where asking them to throw 
up a red flag if a trap or out of range is seen is a big deal.
        
        It is called the U2000 and is a bit clumsy and ugly on the UI side but 
it did appear to do the job. We have not made the decision to buy yet but they 
are in the running.

        On 9/8/2014 8:09 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

                I talked to the guy at their WISPAmerica booth, he was from 
Texas.  I seem to remember their message was they were one of the few companies 
that could outfit an entire project from their own portfolio of products.  I 
don’t remember them having actual hardware on exhibit at the show.

                 

                Recently I got a brochure in the mail from WAV and there was a 
pretty impressive looking Huawei Ethernet switch on the front.

                 

                 

                From: Patrick Wheeland <mailto:p...@csinet.com>  

                Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 7:27 AM

                To: af@afmug.com 

                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Huawei still at it

                 

                I was surprised to see this in my inbox at the beginning of the 
year.  I will withhold my opinion.
                
                [WISPA Announcements] Huawei Joins WISPA as a Vendor Member and 
is Exhibiting in Booth 505 at WISPAmerica

                 

                 

                 

                On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Jason McKemie 
<j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

                Not terribly surprising, I can't believe anyone still does 
business with this company: 

                 

                
http://seattletimes.com/html/businesstechnology/2024470044_tmobilehuaweibuzzxml.html

                 

         

        -- 
        Lewis Bergman
        4309 Maple ST.
        Abilene, TX 79602-8099
        325-480-2590 Office
        325-439-0533 Cell

         

         

 

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