I’ve always had a grip about a device of this type. We run a wireless company as well as a fttx company and the one thing I can say about the fttx (goon) vendors is they gave done a really good job about giving the ONT’s really great intelligence , I wish the wireless vendors would take a page from there book. Regardless if it’s fiber in the middle or wireless those end point devices should have the intelligence as they do in the gpon world. mff / dhcp snoop / mac base limiting / ip based limiting ect / bw profiles / cos management. Just my 2 cents
Carlos Alcantar Race Communications / Race Team Member 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010 Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com<mailto:car...@race.com> / http://www.race.com<http://www.race.com/> From: Jeremy via Af <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Sunday, October 5, 2014 at 7:58 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity This is the best idea I've ever heard for a WISP business invention. I LOVE the idea. It would be really hard to justify the cost on customer installs. I could see maybe bundling it into every business install. It also becomes one more reason why our business installs are better. We could power cycle it remotely, view statistics, etc. I think I could justify it on every business account. On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 5:47 PM, timothy steele via Af <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: A cap that keeps ants/worms on of SM for tree installs would be nice — Sent from Mailbox<https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox> On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 7:45 PM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: then youre already putting in 5-20 dollars worth of cable, 20-35 dollars in surge protection. 5-15 dollars in mounting hardware in incidental costs aside from the CPE there isnt really much breathing room for residential 29-39 dollar connections. Especially in cases like us who eat the CPE cost. The reality is it would be just one more piece of equipment for customers to plug in incorrectly, or even better, completely bypass. That being said, I want it, and I want it to display the MAC address of the attached device so that when a customer gets a new router to self provision they can look on the display and know what it is, we still have CS staff telling them to look on the sticker on the router.. fucking dipshits. E On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: Honestly, a RB2011 fills that niche pretty well. Lock the LCD to display only WAN bandwidth, and disable the touchscreen. Techs can log into the RB2011 with the admin credentials and check on the wireless clients, interface errors, run speed tests (tcp) to the headend of your network, etc. $5/mo for router management a month is what we charge, and the people that have the service love it. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com<http://www.spitwspots.com> On 10/05/2014 01:18 PM, TJ Trout via Af wrote: I would love to find a router that has poe output and all of the diagnostic features you mentioned. It would be nice if the customer could just look at the router to see the status of the connection up down or otherwise. On Oct 5, 2014 2:13 PM, "Chris Fabien via Af" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: I'd say you are correct. Would love to have the functionality but even at $75 I couldn't justify the cost. On Oct 5, 2014 5:08 PM, "Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: Following up on the previous email about product ideas, I have an idea for a product which at least I think would be really cool, but I also think would likely be a big flop, just because of the apparent cost sensitivity of installs. It seems to me that it would be nice to replace the power injector at customer sites with more of an intelligent device. One that provides functionality like traffic metering, cable diagnostics, customer-location speed tests, and so on. The unit would have jacks for the radio, the customer equipment, and power. It would also have a display which shows real-time usage data for the customer to be able to determine for themselves what their current internet consumption is. There are a lot of natural outgrowths from this such as watchdog reset of the radio itself, automatic problem notification to the WISP, etc. My goal would be to instrument this as much as possible. If you think of this as a 'smart power meter' for internet, with diagnostic tools built in, then you've got the basic idea. This is not intended to replace the customer router/nat device, and will only be a Layer 2 device as far as traffic goes. There will likely be some limited traffic shaping possible based on the underlying ethernet swtich chipset. Unfortunately, these can't be a $20 device. $75 might be doable for higher volumes, but $100 is more in the comfort zone for the volumes I typically move. Of course, this is a CPE device and I'm not even sure how many I'd sell so these prices are guesses at best - but more likely to go down instead of up. Although I suspect most people would love to have one of these at each install, I have a hard time believing that most people would swallow adding even $75 to the cost of each install, let alone the $100 which might be the price I'd have to hit for lower volume. Is this a fair assumption? Would you add such a device to each install? -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
