And also if you have to do a cable rerun or move the antenna, you can do
it without requiring the customer to be home.
If I remember right (Chuck or somebody can probably confirm this), you
should be doing this anyway due to electrical code requirements
(grounding before entry into the home).
Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>
On 10/07/2014 10:59 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
Yeah, I had thought about those (and the WB versions). It's a hassle
that may be worth doing to avoid other hassles. Would also provide a
point to test from that's outside if necessary.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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*From: *"Josh Reynolds via Af" <af@afmug.com>
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Tuesday, October 7, 2014 12:55:56 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity
If you use the new UBNT surgeprotectors* (or something like them),
then your outdoor run would technically terminate at that box, and
then you'd have a second (probably much shorter) run from that box
into the home. It would be much more likely for the primarily
'outdoor' cable to have water in it than the much shorter run inside
the home.
Also, we always slice the bottom of our drip loops to let water weep out.
[* - I have no idea if these are shipping]
Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>
On 10/07/2014 04:20 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
I used to be really excited about all-in-one CPE units until I
realized that where now I have to change out the occasional PoE
due to water\lightning\whatever damage... then I'd have to change
out the entire unit.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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*From: *"Darin Steffl via Af" <af@afmug.com>
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Sunday, October 5, 2014 4:25:38 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity
Chris Sisler - RF Armor has/is creating a Customer AP with POE
built-in but it doesn't have a display as far as I know to show
status or anything like that. He is working on getting out the
Tower/WISP switches first I think and then the Customer AP.
http://www.netonix.com/cap-fxs-1.html
On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 4:18 PM, TJ Trout via Af <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
I would love to find a router that has poe output and all of
the diagnostic features you mentioned. It would be nice if the
customer could just look at the router to see the status of
the connection up down or otherwise.
On Oct 5, 2014 2:13 PM, "Chris Fabien via Af" <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
I'd say you are correct. Would love to have the
functionality but even at $75 I couldn't justify the cost.
On Oct 5, 2014 5:08 PM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)
via Af" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
Following up on the previous email about product
ideas, I have an idea for a product which at least I
think would be really cool, but I also think would
likely be a big flop, just because of the apparent
cost sensitivity of installs.
It seems to me that it would be nice to replace the
power injector at customer sites with more of an
intelligent device. One that provides functionality
like traffic metering, cable diagnostics,
customer-location speed tests, and so on. The unit
would have jacks for the radio, the customer
equipment, and power. It would also have a display
which shows real-time usage data for the customer to
be able to determine for themselves what their current
internet consumption is. There are a lot of natural
outgrowths from this such as watchdog reset of the
radio itself, automatic problem notification to the
WISP, etc. My goal would be to instrument this as much
as possible.
If you think of this as a 'smart power meter' for
internet, with diagnostic tools built in, then you've
got the basic idea. This is not intended to replace
the customer router/nat device, and will only be a
Layer 2 device as far as traffic goes. There will
likely be some limited traffic shaping possible based
on the underlying ethernet swtich chipset.
Unfortunately, these can't be a $20 device. $75
might be doable for higher volumes, but $100 is more
in the comfort zone for the volumes I typically move.
Of course, this is a CPE device and I'm not even sure
how many I'd sell so these prices are guesses at best
- but more likely to go down instead of up.
Although I suspect most people would love to have one
of these at each install, I have a hard time believing
that most people would swallow adding even $75 to the
cost of each install, let alone the $100 which might
be the price I'd have to hit for lower volume. Is
this a fair assumption? Would you add such a device to
each install?
--
Darin Steffl
Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/>
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