Just got my stock of RB951's in so hopefully they will work ok out of the box LOL

On 10/7/2014 12:04 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote:
Its a matter of principle, we all know belkin is junk, today only proves it further. By fixing it on your end, your customers dont experience the junk first hand They sing the praises of their shit router because youre behind the scenes fixing belkins fuckup

Now they recomend them to their friends.

So yes, you are in fact training your customers to make it your problem everytime

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Mathew Howard via Af <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:

    odd... when I first tried pinging it, we had a customer on the
    phone with the issue (as well as a few after that). I wonder if
    the routers needed to be rebooted after it came back up before
    they work.

    As long as the customers don't know you fixed it, there shouldn't
    really be much of a worry that customers will make it your problem
    in the future.
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    *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] on
    behalf of Tushar Patel via Af [af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>]
    *Sent:* Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:38 AM
    *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Belkin routers going nuts

    We did  “torch” (one of the Mikrotik tools), that allows me to see
    the destination address of 67.20.176.130,  with protocol and the
    number of source address accessing that. The number of source
    address trying to access that was very high. Since morning we must
    have taken over 20 to 25 calls on the subject. So from the
    resource stand point it was more efficient for us to implement
    loopback response then to keep taking the call. We did not tell
    any customers what we did to fix it.

    How it works: it appears that those Belkin routers were just
    trying to ping the that ip address, so by putting loop back on our
    network, we are essentially responding to that ip address and that
    make the Belkin router happy.

    As you mentioned below that you were able to ping it, earlier we
    were not able to ping that ip address, may be they have already
    fix the problem.

    Thanks,

    Tushar Patel

    512-257-1077 <tel:512-257-1077>

    www.westernbroadband.com <http://www.westernbroadband.com/>

    *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
    <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard via Af
    *Sent:* Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:18 AM
    *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Belkin routers going nuts

    Yeah... if I were to do something like that, I wouldn't let any
    customers know I did it... but I don't like messing with the
    network to fix things that aren't really my problem anyway, it
    would be nice to make those calls stop, but it doesn't seem worth it.

    I'm still a bit confused how that is making it work anyway though,
    since I can ping that IP... how does putting it on an internal
    router make it work? for those who have done it, is your router
    giving any HTTP response on that IP?

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    *From:*Af [af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] on
    behalf of That One Guy via Af [af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>]
    *Sent:* Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:06 AM
    *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Belkin routers going nuts

    that sounds alot like doing Belkins job for them, and guarantees
    from that point forward everytime a customer has any issue. "just
    do that brokeback loop thing you did, this is your problem, fix it
    now, i pay good money for this service, i run a business, and my
    kids go to school and my pacemaker will stop"

    On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Tushar Patel via Af <af@afmug.com
    <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:

    As somebody suggested earlier to put loopback with the
    67.20.176.130, on one
    of the internal router appears to fix the problem.

    Thanks,
    Tushar Patel
    512-257-1077 <tel:512-257-1077>
    www.westernbroadband.com <http://www.westernbroadband.com>

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
    <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of David via Af
    Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 10:42 AM
    To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Belkin routers going nuts

    We are seeing this also..
    Belkin domain is down
    Also be aware that the belkins use heartbeat.belkin.com
    <http://heartbeat.belkin.com> to check to see
    if there is internet access and if the answer

    comes back negative then it will not connect any lan clients to
    internet.
    Also there are a few exploits that have been exposed on 1.00 firmware
    which do bad things to the wan side of things.

    I am currently trying to spoof heartbeat.belkin.com
    <http://heartbeat.belkin.com> to our internal dns
    to fool the router into thinking everything is ok.


    On 10/07/2014 09:11 AM, Mark Radabaugh via Af wrote:
    > 13 customers so far today - all Belkin.
    >
    > Powned?
    >
    > Mark
    >
    > On 10/7/14, 10:04 AM, Darren Shea via Af wrote:
    >> Is anyone else getting inundated with a flood of customers who
    can't
    >> connect to the internet through their Belkin routers this
    >> morning?
    >>    What's the deal with that?,
    >>    Darren
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >
    >



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