Airfiber units.

That's just to start, then we bring in the fiber end to end connection at 
10Gig. The wireless stays on for backup.

Technically we buy it from another service provider, so we have complete 
redundancy in case a fiber gets dug up.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyler Treat via Af
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 10:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Weekend Wispalooza

What are you using to backhaul GIGe neighborhoods wirelessly?!
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Mangled by my iPhone.
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Tyler Treat
Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.

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On Oct 11, 2014, at 11:46 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
Hybrid model, I bring bandwidth in via wireless to the neighborhood and set up 
a cabinet that serves all the houses in active Ethernet fiber.
GPON is ok, but in this model so much of the expense was burial of conduit that 
it really didn't make sense to just pull for GPON.
Plus GPON restricts you to a specific vendor market.

My model might not scale to thousands of installs a month, but it works for 
hundreds a POP.

A POP is about $15k for 200+ connections completely contained and redundant.
The end points and fiber construction are on top of that of course.

That is the major expense, the labor to bore and trench and splice hella ton of 
conduit, boxes and fiber strands.
My entire GigE NID/ONT setup is less than $100 installed though.

Buried conduit all the way to the side of the house, and fiber to the NID.
It's built to last, the conduit and fiber being our biggest expense and asset.

Mikrotik "ONT" and off the shelf lasers from china for next to nothing.

I haven't seen any cheaper ONT setup than what we do, and it's full GigE.
The only piece of the puzzle I'm missing to do 10GigE to the home is a cheaper 
transceiver.
I'm sure that will come next year. Sky's the limit once the fiber is in the 
ground on a one to one basis with the switch and the ONT.
We leave enough fiber to do a pair at the house, though everything is BIDI 
right now.

I don't believe in VoIP or TV, so it's all Ethernet. The customer can get their 
traditional phone and TV elsewhere.
Which is nice for regulations because we dodge every single headache I used to 
have with a WISP.

This fiber stuff is soooooooooooooooo much better and easier.

Costs more though.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason Pond via Af
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Weekend Wispalooza


So enlighten us to what you are doing Sterling.  So far so good.

Tomorrow will answer some more.

Sincerely,

Jason Pond
Owner
Grizzly Internet, Inc
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On Oct 11, 2014 6:36 PM, "Sterling Jacobson via Af" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
Anyone there that would like to update?

I couldn't make it.

Not sure that I would have gotten anything out of it anyways.

I don't use any equipment from any of the sponsors/vendors of fiber weekend.

I'm just curious if they are all talking/preaching the same ONT/deployment 
strategies as usual?

I wonder how close they are to what I am doing.

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