I put the RB in an outdoor case and run cat5e out to it. Fiber terminates at the closure. When I was using standard ONTs I ran a separate DC power wire to the UPS/power supply inside of the house.
-Jason On Sunday, October 12, 2014, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: > > I figured you'd want to enter the house where most other things enter the > house...the fiber/mtik would be on the outside of the house? > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jason Pond via Af <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');> > *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');> > *Sent:* Sunday, October 12, 2014 3:33 PM > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Weekend Wispalooza > > So Yes you can use POE with the MT units but I would just run fiber as far > as you can to a power location. > > Sincerely, > > Jason Pond > > On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 12:43 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af <af@afmug.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>> wrote: > >> >> stupid question, but i know the fiber mikrotik stuff / demarc still needs >> power. what if the point you enter the house does not have power right >> there? how do you hook that up? utilize POE in some shape, form, or >> fashion? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Gino Villarini via Af >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');> >> *To:* <af@afmug.com> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com%5Cx3e');> >> *Sent:* Sunday, October 12, 2014 9:10 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Weekend Wispalooza >> >> Still using the firce10 switches? >> >> Sent from Marconi's and Graham Bell's fused thoughts!!! >> >> >> On Oct 12, 2014, at 1:35 AM, Sterling Jacobson via Af <af@afmug.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>> wrote: >> >> Our ROI is 5 years. We fund per neighborhood and usually come out >> easily paying out the 5 years monthly on the loan plus plenty left over for >> operations. >> >> Our build costs to the home are skewed because we build at cost. >> >> It’s going to vary a lot by your market and circumstance. >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] *On Behalf Of *TJ >> Trout via Af >> *Sent:* Saturday, October 11, 2014 10:58 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Weekend Wispalooza >> >> Any numbers on what it costs to serve an average urban or suburban >> neighborhood per home ? Trying to get some ideas if we can afford the >> investment in fiber. >> >> Like what would it cost to serve say 100 or 200 homes? And idea on roi if >> you were paying for the fiber to be laid like I will be? >> >> On Oct 11, 2014 9:46 PM, "Sterling Jacobson via Af" <af@afmug.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>> wrote: >> >> Hybrid model, I bring bandwidth in via wireless to the neighborhood >> and set up a cabinet that serves all the houses in active Ethernet fiber. >> >> GPON is ok, but in this model so much of the expense was burial of >> conduit that it really didn’t make sense to just pull for GPON. >> >> Plus GPON restricts you to a specific vendor market. >> >> My model might not scale to thousands of installs a month, but it works >> for hundreds a POP. >> >> A POP is about $15k for 200+ connections completely contained and >> redundant. >> >> The end points and fiber construction are on top of that of course. >> >> That is the major expense, the labor to bore and trench and splice >> hella ton of conduit, boxes and fiber strands. >> >> My entire GigE NID/ONT setup is less than $100 installed though. >> >> Buried conduit all the way to the side of the house, and fiber to the >> NID. >> >> It’s built to last, the conduit and fiber being our biggest expense and >> asset. >> >> Mikrotik “ONT” and off the shelf lasers from china for next to nothing. >> >> I haven’t seen any cheaper ONT setup than what we do, and it’s full >> GigE. >> >> The only piece of the puzzle I’m missing to do 10GigE to the home is a >> cheaper transceiver. >> >> I’m sure that will come next year. Sky’s the limit once the fiber is in >> the ground on a one to one basis with the switch and the ONT. >> >> We leave enough fiber to do a pair at the house, though everything is >> BIDI right now. >> >> I don’t believe in VoIP or TV, so it’s all Ethernet. The customer can >> get their traditional phone and TV elsewhere. >> >> Which is nice for regulations because we dodge every single headache I >> used to have with a WISP. >> >> This fiber stuff is soooooooooooooooo much better and easier. >> >> Costs more though. >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] *On Behalf Of *Jason >> Pond via Af >> *Sent:* Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:03 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Weekend Wispalooza >> >> So enlighten us to what you are doing Sterling. So far so good. >> >> Tomorrow will answer some more. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Jason Pond >> Owner >> Grizzly Internet, Inc >> p...@grizzlyinternet.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','p...@grizzlyinternet.com');> >> >> On Oct 11, 2014 6:36 PM, "Sterling Jacobson via Af" <af@afmug.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>> wrote: >> >> Anyone there that would like to update? >> >> I couldn't make it. >> >> Not sure that I would have gotten anything out of it anyways. >> >> I don't use any equipment from any of the sponsors/vendors of fiber >> weekend. >> >> I'm just curious if they are all talking/preaching the same >> ONT/deployment strategies as usual? >> >> I wonder how close they are to what I am doing. >> >> >
