I got called out to a longtime customer location yesterday, a huge pole 
building was going up right in the path.  Funny thing, I look on Google Earth 
today and the new building still isn’t there.

Until recently there were whole windfarms missing from Google Earth because the 
imagery was 6-8 years old, some of it was black & white.  Most of our area is 
May 2013 now.  I’ve had people plant new trees that get to be 35-40 feet tall 
that won’t show up in clutter data or Google Earth.

Trust but verify.


From: Mike Hammett via Af 
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 7:31 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Easy way to determine LOS

There are a million places to do LOS and even LOS with clutter, but none of 
them will tell you if the clutter is actually accurate.

I haven't found anything that beats Radio Mobile with Google Earth to see if 
there's anything that *might* be in the way when it gets near 0.7 fresnel. Path 
it out in RM, export to GE. Use RM to find where the fresnel gets close, then 
use GE to see if there's trees or whatever there.




-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





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From: "Ty Featherling via Af" <af@afmug.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 11:20:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Easy way to determine LOS


Why doesn't everyone know about heywhatsthat.com? Their Path Profiler tool is 
used everyday in our office and I use the Panorama tool for quick and easy 
viewsheds. Great stuff and free. 

-Ty

On Oct 23, 2014 6:21 PM, "Glen Waldrop via Af" <af@afmug.com> wrote:

  I use Terrain Navigator Pro.

  It isn't perfect, but it is pretty good. The elevation data around here is 
close, but not perfect. Places where there aren't people aren't terribly 
accurate, but it uses USGS elevation data, has the option for a line of sight, 
options to change the elevation above ground level at each point.

  The newer versions account for curvature of the Earth, but I'm using an 
antiquated version on XP.


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Shayne Lebrun via Af 
    To: af@afmug.com 
    Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:21 PM
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Easy way to determine LOS

    Path profile software with clutter data, and bear in mind that ‘I can see 
it’ and ‘RF Line-Of-Sight’ are two very separate things.  



    From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout via Af
    Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:27 PM
    To: af@afmug.com
    Subject: [AFMUG] Easy way to determine LOS



    Need to do a ptp shot but can't tell if I have clear LOS, any tricks with a 
telescope or something I can do without someone on the other side with a mirror 
or laser?

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