Thanks for explaining, John. Now more questions...

It definitely needs a radome. Not only for windload, but to keep ice from the feedhorn which is the main purpose of a radome. I guess I will use them as-is for now. Maybe you guys could make a snap-on radome with your sub-reflector built into it? Two birds, one stone. And make a larger version too, need more gain for longer/difficult links. I'm sure 25dBi will work for the 5-6 mile links I need to go with these. 8-10 miles really needs more antenna. It would be nice to have something in the 2' size of the same design.

Like everyone else has already said, how do we get sync with the GPS radio that has the GPS disabled? Does it still take sync over power? And if we want the on-board GPS to function, is there an upgrade license or something?

On 10/24/2014 2:56 PM, John Butler via Af wrote:

Hi George:  I want to clear up your questions about the Force product.

The Force 110 (C058900C042A (FCC)) is as the spec sheet describes - a radio module and the dish. You can buy the radio and the dish separately, but when you buy them bundle as the Force, the price is better. We do not offer a radome for it at this time.

The Force 110 PTP is the same dish, but bundled with the radio that we also use for the GPS Sync AP. The GPS is turned off. The benefit of this radio over the Force 110 is the 802.3af compliant gigabit Ethernet port.

Regards,

John Butler

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 21, 2014 6:11 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP

So the 110 PTP uses the GPS radio, or is it a different radio with sync over power only and no on-board GPS? I thought I remember reading that, but I could be totally wrong.

A distro rep just told us today that the Force 110 is due in Thrusday or Friday. I have a couple links I want to do with these instead of UBNT. If the 110 won't be available for 3-4 weeks, that's going to suck. And all the complaints about assembly of the Force 100, so I don't want to go there.

And the distro's seem to be confused about the parts. The Force 110 spec sheet says: C058900C042A (FCC) – consists of a ePMP Radio Module [C058900A122A/C058900P122A] and ePMP Dish Antenna [C050900D007B].. and the rep said that's only the dish, the radio is extra. I find that hard to believe. And now I'm confused too.

Oh, and do these things come with a radome? That would be nice, but I'm guessing no.

On 10/21/2014 6:00 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:

    Ah, I didn't realize there was a 110 and a 110 PTP.



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    *From: *"John Butler via Af" <af@afmug.com> <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Sent: *Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:57:33 PM
    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP

    Hi Alan:  The Force 110 (which is the new 25 dBi dish) and the
    Connectorized Unsync Radio (fast Ethernet port) is due to ship
    from our channel partners in early November.

    The Force 110 PTP (which is the new 25 dBi dish) and the
    Connectorized Radio with the Gigabit ethernet port is due to ship
    from our channel partners in December.

    *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Alan West
    via Af
    *Sent:* Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:39 PM
    *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP

    Guess not. I am so ready for a replacement for these Force 100 units.

    On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 12:11 PM, George Skorup (Cyber
    Broadcasting) via Af <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:

    Are these things shipping yet?


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