Matthieu - Seeing as I cannot determine your email address from this one... can 
you please email me offlist?

We have recently made the PMP 430 available again in ETSI until the end of the 
year (with the recent software, we pass EN 301 893 v1.6.1, which is still in 
effect until Dec. 31).

m...@cambiumnetworks.com

I will make sure you get in touch with the right folks to help get you what you 
need.

Chuck - v1.6.1 required detection of 0.5 microsecond pulses.  At the time this 
version took effect (January 1, 2013), our algorithms did not reliably detect 
this pulse width.  Since then, we have made it work, and are in process of 
updating our DoC to sell again into the EU.  However, an additional change 
(v1.7.1) takes effect on January 1, 2015 requiring a form of Listen Before 
Talk, which will NOT make it into our legacy platforms (PMP 100 or PMP 430), 
but will be included for PMP 450 as part of R13.3.

Hope that sheds a bit of light on it...

Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450SM to 430AP

Be interesting to know the details.  I don't think there is actually a "dfs" 
chip in the unit.  There is a DSP chip and perhaps there is some out of band 
emissions that do not fit into some kind of European emissions mask.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mathieu via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 7:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450SM to 430AP

dfs frequencies are already notched out for the etsi zone.
from what I've heard from my cambium pre-sale engineer, it's the dfs chip that 
does not meet the new european requirements, and anything from the 
pmp100/400/430 family is prohibited to import in Europe. We have to deal with 
the remaining units already imported.

Le 04/11/2014 15:43, Chuck McCown via Af a �crit :
> One would think Cambium could build you an option to notch out the DFS 
> frequencies and make it legal.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Mathieu via Af
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 7:39 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450SM to 430AP
>
> +1
>
> in France, we can't buy pmp430 sm (or ap, or pmp 100 family ) anymore, 
> due to the dfs regulation, so we absolutely need this, or we will have 
> to change all APs in our networks...
>
>
>
> Le 04/11/2014 14:55, Adam Moffett via Af a �crit :
>> Will they ever make the 450SM talk to our old 430AP's ?
>>
>> I hate buying two different types of SM's, especially knowing that 
>> I'll want to replace the damn 430 with a 450 later.
>>
>

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