Kind of like how the GPS modules the car insurance companies are pushing so hard are to save the *customer* money. Suuuuure.
Interesting point about the car chargers. Wonder if the typical load drop at night would be countered by the spike in charger demand and you'd be limited to the charge ability. Would suck to wake up in the morning and your car not have enough juice to go to work. Maybe you can set a QoS on your power meter so some things get priority over others. I'd laugh if electric cars were more expensive to run than gas cars in high $ electricity areas. Smart metering does give a lot of potential to manage this better though. Or do some crazy kind of electric car as grid power storage deal, where the car keeps X amt of battery capacity for driving and Y amt for grid tie power storage. Or maybe I've had too much coffee this afternoon and am rambling. On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: > Electric vehicle chargers come to mind. You just want it charged by > morning, but if everyone in a neighborhood sets their charger for midnight, > it could be quite a hit to the local grid. And if they give you a lower > rate in return for letting them control when it charges, you would be > interested. I think so far the customer benefits have been all sizzle and > no steak. All the benefits have flowed to the power company in lower > operations costs due to less meter readers, faster troubleshooting of > outages, etc. > > > -----Original Message----- From: Caleb Knauer via Af > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 12:31 PM > > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses > > Yeah I thought about that a few seconds after I hit send. In addition > to the shutoff services and brownout situations discussed in > additional emails, one think I think it really neat is the concept of > being able to wire up various circuits into the smart meter so they > can shut down things like your AC when there's not enough power and > keep lights etc running instead of a total rolling brownout/blackout. > Kinda terrifying too having that level of control over your home, esp > when the Comcast-Warner-ATT-GE conglomerate is running everything. > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: >> >> What do you think a smartmeter is? >> >> I compare it to cable. With analog cable, they had to send a guy in a >> truck >> to shut off your service, but with digital cable a computer can do it any >> time. I assume smartmeters have a remote shutoff capability. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Caleb Knauer via Af >> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 10:38 AM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses >> >> One day the circuit breakers will all be connected and automated and >> we'll all be doooooooooommmmmdddd! >> >> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Chuck McCown via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> circuit breaker... >>> >>> From: Ken Hohhof via Af >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 5:15 PM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses >>> >>> Have you unplugged your fridge lately? You have to roll it out. That >>> involves taking off the grill at the bottom and figuring out what kind of >>> wrench you need to crank up the leveling screws. Then your wife makes >>> you >>> pick up the dead mice and pet turtles and get out the vacuum and sweep up >>> all the dog hair and dried up vegetables that are back there. Then you >>> climb back there and unplug it, count one Mississippi two Mississippi, >>> plug >>> it back in, climb back out, roll the fridge back, re-level it, and put >>> the >>> grill back on. >>> >>> >>> From: Bill Prince via Af >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 4:18 PM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses >>> >>> Unplug it/plug it back in is cheaper than putting in an on/off switch (or >>> re-init switch). >>> >>> bp >>> >>> On 11/4/2014 1:46 PM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote: >>> >>> I'd be happy to share in that job. >>> >>> My big beef with our brave new world is that you have to reboot >>> everything. >>> >>> Microwave display is screwed up....unplug it and plug it back in. >>> Washing machine digital display is not responding.....unplug it and plug >>> it >>> back in. >>> DVD Player frozen.....unplug it and plug it back in. >>> Dodge Intrepid won't shift gears......turn it off and turn it back on. >>> >>> These are all true stories. >>> >>> The internet of things will be a network of crap that doesn't work unless >>> you reboot it regularly. When they are up, the "things" will all be >>> participating in a botnet. >>> >>> finally someone took over Doug's job of letting us all know the sky is >>> falling!?!? >>> >>> hip hip hooray...long live Ken the prognosticator! >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Bill Prince via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The apocalypse is coming!!!!! >>>> >>>> bp >>>> >>>> On 11/4/2014 11:58 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: >>>> >>>> Soon, when your Internet goes out, you won’t even be able to open your >>>> garage door or flush your toilet, because it will all be in the cloud. >>>> >>>> And as ISPs, we’ll be getting angry calls like “Is the tower down? I >>>> can’t flush my toilet.” >>>> >>>> You think I’m joking? Remember the thread about LED bulbs interfering >>>> with garage door openers? One of the suggested fixes is a garage door >>>> opener app on your smartphone. I assume that only works if your >>>> smarthouse >>>> has working Internet. Our hives will cease to operate if you cut the >>>> connection to the collective. >>>> >>>> I’m imagining that something goes wrong with the cloud controller, and >>>> now >>>> I can’t even use WiFi within my house, like printing to my wireless >>>> printer >>>> or using Chromecast to my TV. Yes, I know, Unifi should continue to >>>> operate >>>> without the controller once set up, but do some features stop working? >>>> Like >>>> handoff between APs? >>>> >>>> From: Josh Baird via Af >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 1:47 PM >>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses >>>> >>>> You can host them all on a single controller in your datacenter. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 2:24 PM, TJ Trout via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Can't stand unifi, have them came up with a way to do it without a >>>> controller? What do you do if the customer doesn't have a windows >>>> machine? >>>> Install a unifi "server" ? >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Sean Heskett via Af <af@afmug.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> UBNT UniFi...one SSID >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 12:19 PM, TJ Trout via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> What are you guys doing to cover large homes with good wifi coverage? >>>>>> Any options besides multiple routers with multiple ssid's? Does rukus >>>>>> or >>>>>> someone make something with true roaming? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
