Yes,
that is a quality tie.
I just try to avoid any thing with a tie in it.
when we first started doing cat5 bestronics foil cable up a tower we
used PVC and #12 black wire to tie most every thing
down.
We have since come acustom to using cable trays and support hangers
using HDPFE 2" conduit with superior essex armored on
all new sites or any rebuild that has to be done.
We even go as far as using the 3/8" grommets and hangers to the radios
to support the essex cable.
It seems a little excessive on our part but when deploying a 5k radio
sector it only makes sense to put a little more into
the backbone supporting it.
On 11/9/2014 1:54 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote:
We use TY25MX Ty-Raps. UV and stainless lock. They do not break in the
cold. We've had the equivalent Panduit's on towers for 10 years and
they have not failed. I agree with "no zip ties on towers" but these
are not "zip ties."
On 11/9/2014 12:29 AM, Darin Steffl via Af wrote:
What are the good zip ties you use? It's very hard finding some that
don't snap below 55 degrees.
On Sunday, November 9, 2014, Josh Reynolds via Af <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
Bout to say, our company has been doing installs with super88 and
good quality zip ties in Alaska for about 10 years now.
Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>
On 11/08/2014 07:59 PM, Jason McKemie via Af wrote:
If you use quality zip ties they are just fine.
On Saturday, November 8, 2014, David Milholen via Af
<af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>> wrote:
I need to find my old pics of a company that used Zip ties
on towers instead of hangers or cable tray.
A 400' run of lmr400 came loose during a winter storm and
the Electric company thought it was a guy wire flappin in
the wind from
a distance and had everyone pacing the floor and trying to
get to the site to look to see what needs to be done.
Needless to say as a standard policy we do not allow for any
zip ties anywhere on any of our towers including metal ones
unless they are
rated for outdoor use and only for short distances.
As for type of hybrid cable we use. We use Bestronics to
customize the ends for good terminations.
On 11/8/2014 4:26 PM, Craig House via Af wrote:
We have purchased outdoor rated unarmored fiber to run up
many towers over the last 2 to 3 years I have not yet had a
problem with any of it wearing through and we do not put it
in conduit
As long as you zip tie it frequently so that it is not
rubbing around on anything it shouldn't be a problem
We have been buying our fiber preterminated from discount
low-voltage.com <http://low-voltage.com>
I have never had anything sent to me that was not as we
ordered it or that didn't work when we installed everything
is been top-quality from them
It even comes with a Kevlar Pullhook and plastic shroud
over the pull in so you don't hang it on anything as you
pull it up
Craig
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 8, 2014, at 16:19, Ken Hohhof via Af <af@afmug.com>
wrote:
I don’t know much if anything about fiber, but I see lots
of options here:
http://ce.superioressex.com/products/communications/osp-cable/fiber/
I would think armor would provide gopher protection in
direct burial applications and cut resistance in tower and
grain leg applications, but I also see several rugged
non-armored types listed there including:
double jacket non-armor (series 1G)
ADSS 100/200/400
heavy duty LT (series 1H)
*From:* Darin Steffl via Af
*Sent:* Saturday, November 08, 2014 3:57 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber to top of tower
So you're saying don't go armored fiber at all but just
outdoor rated fiber and make sure nothing can rub through
the jacket? We're looking for something tougher that can
withstand the pull up the tower and then the elements
since we don't want to run conduit.
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Chuck McCown via Af
<af@afmug.com> wrote:
I cannot imagine a benefit to having armored/shielded
on a fiber up the tower other than mechanical
protection. It would not offer any electrical
benefits and could actually pick up and transfer RF
and induced impulses from lightening.
*From:* Darin Steffl via Af
*Sent:* Saturday, November 08, 2014 1:47 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Fiber to top of tower
Hey guys,
For fiber runs to a switch or radio on top of the
tower, do you recommend non-armored fiber or armored
with the metal shield? If there a way to have armored
fiber without metal inside?
I'm wondering how some of you run fiber up to the top
now and if having metal in the fiber is alright or if
it's a bad idea because of lightning or grounding
issues. Looking for best practices here. Thanks
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