That's very helpful! Can someone from Cambium answer what the max transmit power is for ePMP in 5150-5250? specifically, for two eForce 100 in a point-to-point configuration. ________________________________ From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Bruce Collins via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 5:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5.1 PMP rules
The short answer is that PTP 650 does support 5.15 GHz. To access 5.15GHz you will need to be on release 01-21 and then go to the support website to add 5.1GHz license key (no charge). Because of the out-of-band emissions requirements there are automatic backoffs in power on the band edges of the 5.15GHz channels. Below are all the details on the implementation of 5.15GHz FCC band on the PTP 650. Let me know if you have further questions. Regards, Bruce Product Manager Cambium Networks 1. The grant covers the PTP 650, PTP 650S and PTP 650L 2. The band is only applicable to FCC radios used in the U.S. and U.S. territories. 3. Existing customers will need to go the license manager page on the support website to update their license key adding 5.15 GHz (at no charge) 4. The UNII-1 band officially covers 5.15 GHz to 5.25 GHz at a maximum of 53dBm EIRP and does not required DFS for radar avoidance. HOWEVER, it does have very stringent out-of-band emissions requirements which make the maximum EIRP unlikely to be met by any commercial products. 5. The out of band emissions requirements and the fact that UNII-1 band is adjacent to the 5.2GHz band that does require radar avoidance means that each product approved under UNII-1 will have different capabilities. LINKPlanner has been updated to take these rules into account if you plan a link in the UNII-1 band with the PTP 650. 6. The PTP 650 supports the following EIRP levels dependent on channel bandwidth. G stands for the gain of the antenna with maximum antenna gain of 23dBi. a. 5MHz: 33 – G dBm (so for example, with the integrated 23dBm antenna the max tx power is 33dBm – 23dBi = 10dBm) b. 10MHz: 31 – G dBm c. 15MHz: 37 – G dBm d. 20MHz: 36 – G dBm e. 30MHz: 35 – G dBm f. 40MHz: 30 – G dBm g. 45MHz: 30 – G dBm 7. Further there are band edge back-offs shown below: 8. Channel Bandwidth Channel Frequency Backoff 5 MHz Below 5158.0 MHz 7 dB 5158 to 5200 MHz 3 dB Above 5200.0 MHz 0 dB 10 MHz Below 5164.0 MHz 8 dB 5164.0 MHz and above 0 dB 15 MHz Below 5170.0 MHz 14 dB 5170 to 5181 MHz 6 dB Above 5181.0 MHz 0 dB 20 MHz Below 5175.0 MHz 13 dB 5175 to 5187 MHz 6 dB Above 5187.0 MHz 0 dB 30 MHz Below 5187.0 MHz 11 dB 5187 to 5200 MHz 5 dB Above 5208.0 MHz 0 dB 40 MHz Below 5200.0 MHz 6 dB 5200.0 MHz and above 0 dB 45 MHz Below 5205.0 MHz 7 dB 5205.0 MHz and above 0 dB From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 4:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5.1 PMP rules im on 1-21 it only has the option for 5.2 .54 and 5.8 in the GUI, maybe im missing something Does anyone have a link to an accurate up to date cheatsheet for the entire 5ghz band and its subsets? On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Mathew Howard via Af <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: I'm pretty sure I got an email from Cambium awhile back saying it did... yeah, here it is... looks like it needs a license key to enable it. http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/pressreleases/2014/07/28/cambium-networks-ptp-650-receives-fcc-grant-to-operate-in-5150-to-5250-mhz ________________________________ From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] on behalf of That One Guy via Af [af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 4:36 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5.1 PMP rules crud, 650 doesnt do 5.1, that is disappointing On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:34 PM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: cambium linkplanner is locking it at 36 on ptp I havent looked on the ptp650 to see if its locked Man i hope somebody can provide some evidence that it can go up to 53, that would get a pretty big load of my back right now On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Mathew Howard via Af <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: That's definitely not right... maybe you have numbers from the old 5150-5250 rules? PtMP is 36dBm EIRP, and PtP is 53dBm EIRP - however, because of the OOBE stuff, I'm not aware of anything that can actually do 53dBm. Ubiquiti stuff is all limited to 36dBm, ePMP lets me set the Tx power up to 20dBm with the antenna size set to 30dBi (in PtP mode). ________________________________ From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] on behalf of That One Guy via Af [af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 4:24 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5.1 PMP rules Really? My cheetsheet shows much lower EIRPs - 22 on PtP and 16 on PmP!! On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Dan Petermann via Af <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: awesome, Thank you On Nov 12, 2014, at 2:58 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: > 36dBm PtMP. 53dBm PtP. I assume the SM qualifies as PTP like 5.7. And no DFS. > > On 11/12/2014 3:53 PM, Dan Petermann via Af wrote: >> Can someone give me a quick list of eirp rules in the 5.1 band for >> multipoint? > -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
