Oh, wait, you’re talking about ePMP sectors?  Are those Laird?  I thought they 
were made by RF Elements.

From: Ken Hohhof via Af 
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 7:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP power limits

I think you’re being unfair to the Laird sourced Cambium sectors.  As long as 
you choose the “Gen II” or “Gen III” KP sectors, those should be good choices 
as well, and maybe a little better price.  Main differences I think would be:

KP specifies beamwidth at 3 dB points
KP has built in downtilt

Cambium has bracket to hold a 450 AP papoose style
Cambium has null fill
Cambium brackets are hot dip galvanized with stainless steel hardware

The mechanical design and connector placement are different, you may prefer one 
or the other.  Some people have complained about the stainless steel hardware, 
but they are standard bolts and nuts so you could replace them or substitute 
silicon bronze nuts or use antiseize.  Or buy the KP antennas.

Laird makes many products and has acquired many companies, I don’t think you 
can paint all their products with one brush.  And as an example, some people 
have cast aspersions (asparagus if you’re Louie Gohmert) on the Cushcraft 15 
dBi yagi, actually I’ve found it performs very well.  The Pac Wireless wire 
grids however are junk, they turn to rust in about 5 years.


From: Josh Luthman via Af 
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 6:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP power limits

Uhm I'd recommend beer cans over Laird sectors.  KP is an excellent choice.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Nov 17, 2014 7:39 PM, "Keith Fletcher via Af" <af@afmug.com> wrote:

  You recommend KP sectors over Cambium sectors?


  On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Josh Luthman via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:

    Yes, sorry



    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340
    Direct: 937-552-2343
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373


    On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:34 PM, TJ Trout via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:

      20mhz?

      On Nov 14, 2014 8:12 AM, "Josh Luthman via Af" <af@afmug.com> wrote:

        Note these 20 second tests were done on an internally timed AP on a KP 
sector with a downlink of -40 and uplink -60 (yay ATP)

        2.3 release
        Downlink 85.228 Mbps
        Uplink 21.986 Mbps
        Aggregate 107.214 Mbps

        ^ This never deviated more than 1 Mbps (less than 1%!)

        2.3.1rc3
        Downlink
        81.259 Mbps
        Uplink
        19.326 Mbps
        Aggregate
        100.585 Mbps

        Downlink
        83.977 Mbps
        Uplink
        19.22 Mbps
        Aggregate
        103.197 Mbps

        Downlink
        83.161 Mbps
        Uplink
        19.34 Mbps
        Aggregate
        102.501 Mbps

        Definitely deploying 2.3 both due to more/stable bandwidth and the fact 
it is a release =)


        Josh Luthman
        Office: 937-552-2340
        Direct: 937-552-2343
        1100 Wayne St
        Suite 1337
        Troy, OH 45373

        On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:48 PM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

          Latest release* 2.3 

          I'll slap on 2.3.1 when I get some downtime at the office tomorrow.



          Josh Luthman
          Office: 937-552-2340
          Direct: 937-552-2343
          1100 Wayne St
          Suite 1337
          Troy, OH 45373


          On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Mike Hammett via Af <af@afmug.com> 
wrote:

            All the way to 2.3.1? 





            -----
            Mike Hammett
            Intelligent Computing Solutions
            http://www.ics-il.com





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            From: "Josh Luthman via Af" <af@afmug.com>
            To: af@afmug.com
            Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:11:57 PM
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP power limits


            Latest firmware just got me 110 megs aggregate on a wireless test.  
That's not bad in 20 MHz MIMO especially when it has fixed scheduling.

            Josh Luthman
            Office: 937-552-2340
            Direct: 937-552-2343
            1100 Wayne St
            Suite 1337
            Troy, OH 45373

            On Nov 13, 2014 8:37 PM, "Mike Hammett via Af" <af@afmug.com> wrote:

              I prefer ePMP over 450 as I can afford to buy multiple of them 
and use sectors instead of omnis.




              -----
              Mike Hammett
              Intelligent Computing Solutions
              http://www.ics-il.com





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              From: "Kurt Fankhauser via Af" <af@afmug.com>
              To: af@afmug.com
              Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:04:47 PM
              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP power limits

              this is why i prefer 450 over epmp on omnis, cant hit legal eirp 
with the omni

              Sent from my iPhone

              Kurt Fankhauser
              Wavelinc Communications
              P.O. Box 126
              Bucyrus, OH 44820
              http://www.wavelinc.com
              tel. 419-562-6405
              fax. 419-617-0110

              > On Nov 13, 2014, at 7:21 PM, Josh Luthman via Af <af@afmug.com> 
wrote:
              > 
              > Neat pop up!!!  This is a nonsync integrated unit.
              > 
              > 19:00:28 The Transmitter Output Power limitations 5.x GHz bands 
are:
              > 
              > For ETSI and FCC regions:
              > 5.1-5.2 GHz: 18 dBm
              > 5.47-5.725 GHz: 13-16 dBm
              > 5.725-5.88 GHz: 23 dBm
              > 
              > For other regions:
              > 5.1-5.47 GHz: 27 dBm
              > 5.47-5.88 GHz: 30 dBm
              > 
              > Josh Luthman
              > Office: 937-552-2340
              > Direct: 937-552-2343
              > 1100 Wayne St
              > Suite 1337
              > Troy, OH 45373






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