They are. I believe RF Elements is the OEM for a few other things across the industry as well.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Hohhof via Af" <af@afmug.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 7:02:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP power limits Oh, wait, you’re talking about ePMP sectors? Are those Laird? I thought they were made by RF Elements. From: Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 7:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP power limits I think you’re being unfair to the Laird sourced Cambium sectors. As long as you choose the “Gen II” or “Gen III” KP sectors, those should be good choices as well, and maybe a little better price. Main differences I think would be: KP specifies beamwidth at 3 dB points KP has built in downtilt Cambium has bracket to hold a 450 AP papoose style Cambium has null fill Cambium brackets are hot dip galvanized with stainless steel hardware The mechanical design and connector placement are different, you may prefer one or the other. Some people have complained about the stainless steel hardware, but they are standard bolts and nuts so you could replace them or substitute silicon bronze nuts or use antiseize. Or buy the KP antennas. Laird makes many products and has acquired many companies, I don’t think you can paint all their products with one brush. And as an example, some people have cast aspersions (asparagus if you’re Louie Gohmert) on the Cushcraft 15 dBi yagi, actually I’ve found it performs very well. The Pac Wireless wire grids however are junk, they turn to rust in about 5 years. From: Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 6:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP power limits Uhm I'd recommend beer cans over Laird sectors. KP is an excellent choice. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 17, 2014 7:39 PM, "Keith Fletcher via Af" < af@afmug.com > wrote: You recommend KP sectors over Cambium sectors? On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Josh Luthman via Af < af@afmug.com > wrote: <blockquote> Yes, sorry Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:34 PM, TJ Trout via Af < af@afmug.com > wrote: <blockquote> 20mhz? On Nov 14, 2014 8:12 AM, "Josh Luthman via Af" < af@afmug.com > wrote: <blockquote> Note these 20 second tests were done on an internally timed AP on a KP sector with a downlink of -40 and uplink -60 (yay ATP) 2.3 release Downlink 85.228 Mbps Uplink 21.986 Mbps Aggregate 107.214 Mbps ^ This never deviated more than 1 Mbps (less than 1%!) 2.3.1rc3 Downlink 81.259 Mbps Uplink 19.326 Mbps Aggregate 100.585 Mbps Downlink 83.977 Mbps Uplink 19.22 Mbps Aggregate 103.197 Mbps Downlink 83.161 Mbps Uplink 19.34 Mbps Aggregate 102.501 Mbps Definitely deploying 2.3 both due to more/stable bandwidth and the fact it is a release =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:48 PM, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > wrote: <blockquote> Latest release* 2.3 I'll slap on 2.3.1 when I get some downtime at the office tomorrow. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Mike Hammett via Af < af@afmug.com > wrote: <blockquote> All the way to 2.3.1? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "Josh Luthman via Af" < af@afmug.com > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:11:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP power limits Latest firmware just got me 110 megs aggregate on a wireless test. That's not bad in 20 MHz MIMO especially when it has fixed scheduling. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 13, 2014 8:37 PM, "Mike Hammett via Af" < af@afmug.com > wrote: <blockquote> I prefer ePMP over 450 as I can afford to buy multiple of them and use sectors instead of omnis. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "Kurt Fankhauser via Af" < af@afmug.com > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:04:47 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP power limits this is why i prefer 450 over epmp on omnis, cant hit legal eirp with the omni Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 > On Nov 13, 2014, at 7:21 PM, Josh Luthman via Af < af@afmug.com > wrote: > > Neat pop up!!! This is a nonsync integrated unit. > > 19:00:28 The Transmitter Output Power limitations 5.x GHz bands are: > > For ETSI and FCC regions: > 5.1-5.2 GHz: 18 dBm > 5.47-5.725 GHz: 13-16 dBm > 5.725-5.88 GHz: 23 dBm > > For other regions: > 5.1-5.47 GHz: 27 dBm > 5.47-5.88 GHz: 30 dBm > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote>
