My brother is a police office and my father was a police officer.  Cops never 
want to fire their gun and they never want to kill someone.  It puts them at 
too much risk, legally and from a career standpoint.  They know more than 
anyone the ramifications.  That being said, a lot of the police officers were 
briefed the next day after the shooting and were told that Michael Brown 
attacked the officer while he was in the car and that he had to fire his weapon 
because they were worried that others might try that tactic and they wanted the 
officers to be aware nationwide.  Nobody wants to fire a weapon in a car due to 
the potential hearing damage unless it’s a matter of life or death.  The real 
problem is why Eric Holder held that information back from the public for weeks 
just like he did with the video from the store (the police chief of Ferguson 
let that out against orders from the Justice Department a few days later which 
is why the governor took management of the riots out of his hands)  to fan the 
flames of misinformation.

 

Rory    

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyler Treat via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 7:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ot: may be some interesting listening here in an hour

 

​I agree that it's become more visible due to 24x7 news cycles, and social 
media.   especially social media.   

________________________________

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Josh Luthman via Af <af@afmug.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:45 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ot: may be some interesting listening here in an hour 

 

>Cops sure seem to me to be a bit more trigger happy than in times past.  

 

Is that a gut feeling or is there math to prove that?  It's certainly become 
more visible in recent years, but from what I've read in the last year there 
hasn't been a noticeable increase in police shootings in the last several years 
(as of the last year report I read).




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Chuck McCown via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:

Yep, here in Utah the motto is “kill ‘em all, let God sort ‘em out”.  

It is OK though because we are a pretty religious bunch...

 

But seriously - 

 

Cops sure seem to me to be a bit more trigger happy than in times past.  

 

We have one that seems to me to be much worse that Ferguson here in Saratoga 
Springs.  

Kid had a replica sword.  Walking around near a gas station, morning, not any 
people around.

Someone called it in, kid was looking/acting a bit goofy.

Cops chased him around and shot him in the back 6 or 7 times.  

 

No looting and riots.  Just peaceful sad gatherings.  

 

From: That One Guy via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 10:27 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ot: may be some interesting listening here in an hour

 

none will be prosecuted, they all have the ACLU hotline written on their arm, 
there are hundreds of lawyers on site just for this, everything is a civil 
rights issue, even stealing TVs. 

 

Ive been listening to http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/ctid/1573/web really 
good dispatchers, these guys have to be under stress, they keep having missing 
cops, even though you know theyll turn up its got to put a pit in your stomach 
every time.

 

Apparently in utah now, getting killed by cops is the number one murder 
according to some headlines, is this true chuck, are your cops randomly killing 
poeple now?

 

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Jay Weekley via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:

There are a lot of cameras in the area. Hopefully some will be prosecuted.

Mathew Howard via Af wrote:

It makes sense when you think about it that way... they know there's a good 
chance they'll get away with it, with all the other stuff going on keeping the 
police busy.

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*From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of CBB - Jay Fuller via Af 
[af@afmug.com]
*Sent:* Monday, November 24, 2014 11:06 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ot: may be some interesting listening here in an hour

crimes of opportunity.  hey, excuse to break into the liquor store.  free beer!
no relation to anything else.

    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af
    <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Sent:* Monday, November 24, 2014 10:53 PM
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ot: may be some interesting listening here
    in an hour

    Destroy your own city, brilliant!

    On 11/24/2014 10:23 PM, Tyler Treat via Af wrote:
    > Toggling between Fox and CNN.    People just torching random
    shit and thieving everything.  Sad.
    >
    > ___________________________
    > Mangled by my iPhone.
    > ___________________________
    >
    > Tyler Treat
    > Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.
    >
    > tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com <mailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com>
    > ___________________________
    >
    >
    >> On Nov 24, 2014, at 10:18 PM, Jay Weekley via Af <af@afmug.com
    <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
    >>
    >> Anything interesting on the scanner?
    >>
    >> Tyler Treat via Af wrote:
    >>> I'm completely speechless.
    >>>
    >>> ___________________________
    >>> Mangled by my iPhone.
    >>> ___________________________
    >>>
    >>> Tyler Treat
    >>> Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.
    >>>
    >>> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com
    <mailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com>
    <mailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com>
    >>> ___________________________
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>> On Nov 24, 2014, at 8:44 PM, That One Guy via Af
    <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>> woot
    >>>>
    >>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Mathew Howard via Af
    <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>     8pm central is what I heard on the radio on the way home.
    >>>>
    >>>>     I didn't think about listening to the police scanner... this
    >>>>     should be interesting.
    >>>>
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    >>>>     *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com
    <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>]
    >>>>     on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [af@afmug.com
    <mailto:af@afmug.com>]
    >>>>     *Sent:* Monday, November 24, 2014 7:23 PM
    >>>>     *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    >>>>     *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ot: may be some interesting
    listening here
    >>>>     in an hour
    >>>>
    >>>>     I think it's due at 8 PM Central.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>     -----
    >>>>     Mike Hammett
    >>>>     Intelligent Computing Solutions
    >>>> http://www.ics-il.com
    >>>>
    >>>>        
<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL
    
<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL%3E%3Chttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb%3E%3Chttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions%3E%3Chttps://twitter.com/ICSIL
 
<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL%3E%3Chttps:/plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb%3E%3Chttps:/www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions%3E%3Chttps:/twitter.com/ICSIL>
 >>
    >>>>
    >>>>
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    >>>>     *From: *"Rory Conaway via Af" <af@afmug.com
    <mailto:af@afmug.com> <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
    >>>>     *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:*af@afmug.com> 


    <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    >>>>     *Sent: *Monday, November 24, 2014 7:22:34 PM
    >>>>     *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ot: may be some interesting
    listening here
    >>>>     in an hour
    >>>>
    >>>>     That�s awesome.  Did they release the verdict?
    >>>>
    >>>>     Rory
    >>>>
    >>>>     *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
    >>>>     <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *That One
    Guy via Af
    >>>>     *Sent:* Monday, November 24, 2014 6:01 PM
    >>>>     *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    >>>>     *Subject:* [AFMUG] ot: may be some interesting listening
    here in
    >>>>     an hour
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/st-louis-county-police-scanner
    >>>>
    >>>>     --
    >>>>     All parts should go together without forcing. You must
    remember
    >>>>     that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you.
    >>>>     Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there
    must be a
    >>>>     reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance
    >>>>     manual, 1925
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must
    remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by
    you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must
    be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance
    manual, 1925

 





 

-- 

All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts 
you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them 
together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- 
IBM maintenance manual, 1925

 

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