Hey, that sounds like an awesome movie! of course, Sony might send some hitmen 
after or something...
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From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of That One Guy via Af [af@afmug.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 8:17 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack

Man, though it would suck, this would be cool if the whole plot was to steal 
this loot, causing Sony not to release it, knowing demand will be high, and it 
will be released.

The plan being once a limited or leaked release happens, the thieves "hackers" 
will release it in the underground (free streaming and p2p like thepiratebay 
was) Knowing its going to move through those mediums faster than The Walking 
Dead and Game of thrones.

The initial movies they released in the beginning (i dont remember which ones) 
were a greenfield deployment with a new malware, only no payload, for 
verification of delivery capability or to create a botnet of C&C servers.

When this move gets leaked into that medium it will be embedded with the full 
payload malware, knowing more than 50% of the US will probably have downloaded 
it to at least one device. With the previous greenfield deployment being C&C 
servers, very little traffic would be heading to and from the suspect sources, 
mostly US based traffic.

The Pirate Bay being raided and shut down recently gives them the ability to 
get up a Torrent server that they control, maybe part of the conspiracy.

If i were going to make a movie about a digital attack, this would be the bulk 
of the movie, Id just have Russel Crowe punch a few people and Id be rich.

On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
https://www.us-cert.gov/ncas/alerts/TA14-353A



From: Josh Luthman via Af<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 2:42 PM
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Kinda what I thought...

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On Dec 20, 2014 3:41 PM, "Bill Prince via Af" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
Maybe it is a plot perpetrated by Sony to cut out the theaters.

The demand for the "banned movie" will be off the charts, because everyone will 
want to see what they've been censored from.

Pay per view, or video on demand, or even DVD/blue ray all seem viable to me.

Will take a movie that might have made $100 million up into the multi-hundred 
million category.



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On 12/20/2014 12:26 PM, Nate Burke via Af wrote:
It's not such a crazy idea anymore
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30559169

Sony Pictures says it is looking at different ways to release The Interview 
after scrapping its opening following a cyber-attack blamed on North Korea.

"Without theatres, we could not release it in the theatres on Christmas Day. We 
had no choice," the statement added.

"It is still our hope that anyone who wants to see this movie will get the 
opportunity to do so."

See, New distribution without theater owners, and they can't get upset.

On 12/19/2014 6:45 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
Wait, Rodman is a Mormon?� I thought he was fined $50K for insulting Mormons 
back in the day.
�
I was kind of hoping he would stay over in N. Korea with his buddy Un, the only 
person on the planet who thinks of him as a basketball player, not a washed up 
buffoon.� But N. Korea is stuck in 1950, so the Worm must seem like a 
basketball star from 45 years in the future.� I still can’t believe that 
idiot was on the same team with MJ.
�
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From: Chuck McCown via Af<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 6:23 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
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Depends on the Mormon, I prefer peyote, 3D HiFi visions, ping time to heaven is 
in the nanoseconds...
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From: Jason Petrillo via Af<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 5:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
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Chuck,
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 3:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
�
I heard that Rev Al and Dennis Rodman shot a porno flick with Kim Jong Un and 
then he got wet feet during post production and sent Dennis and Rev Al into 
Sony HQ to delete the copy.� While the worm was attempting to guess the Sony 
root password (123456) they got drunk and ACCIDENTALLY shared some files with 
the rest of� the world.� They are sorry and Kim Jong is not returning their 
calls anymore.�� So it is a big mistake, nothing to see here.� Please 
move along.�
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From: That One Guy via Af<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 11:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
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�
The two big problems with the tinfoil theories like that and the ones I come up 
with as well are the domestic terrorism issue, that wont go away, somebody will 
end up dead. The other is Al Sharpton, nobody, for any reason under the sun 
would open that can.
�
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Nate Burke via Af 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
Ok, putting on my Conspiracy theory hat now that the FBI just announced that NK 
is behind the attack, since there's been no collusion between the gov't and the 
media industry before.....� What if Sony is developing a new Distribution 
system to bypass theaters with new releases.� What better way to get it 
started than to have to use it in a way that does not anger theater owners.� 
'Oh, we have to distribute the movie this way, because someone threatened you 
if we show it at your movie theater'� And then, if it completely fails, they 
can point their finger to North Korea who 'Forced them to have to do it this 
way'� They get to try something new without having ANYONE upset with them.� 
Oh, except maybe Seth Rogan.

Were there any recent Sony Internships that touted 'International travel' as 
part of the perks?

On 12/17/2014 8:39 PM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote:
True... it's not really surprising they pulled it, nobody is going to want to 
take on that sort of liability.
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From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] on behalf of That 
One Guy via Af [af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
If hackers are involved to the degree they claim, which I doubt, the mystery of 
N Koreas involvment (they do have the money to pay for hired hackers) has 
emboldened them to act like warriors.
Sony already has 2 lawsuits going, for not protecting employee data, imagine if 
something did happen at a theater, even a random lunatic with a 9mm, thats alot 
of liability.
�
A "leak" of the movie would be great, they can make their money on DMCA suits
�
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On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Mathew Howard via Af 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
It seems a little odd that a bunch of hackers would even threaten that... I 
would think a more hacker-ish threat would be more credible.
�
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From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] on behalf of Jason 
McKemie via Af [af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
How much of a physical violence threat are a bunch of hackers though? Not the 
most threatening demographic from that standpoint...

On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Tushar Patel via Af 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
I was thinking on same line but I am sure they must have got some credible 
threat to act like this.

Tushar
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On Dec 17, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Jason McKemie via Af 
<af@afmug.com<http://UrlBlockedError.aspx>> wrote:
On a side note, I can't believe movie theaters as well as Sony capitulated to 
these dumbasses in regards to "The Interview".� Isn't that tantamount to 
negotiating with a terrorist?

On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Nate Burke via Af 
<af@afmug.com<http://UrlBlockedError.aspx>> wrote:
I've only been following loosely with what I hear on the radio, but it sound 
like there was a lot of data stolen (multiple gig's from the sound of it).� 
The Last update I heard was that the hack originated from a hotel Wifi 
connection in china somewhere.� How were they able to transfer that much data 
in a short enough time that it wasn't discovered and stopped?� Did the hotel 
have a blazing fast network?� Something with getting that amount of data in 
such a short time dosen't seem to add up.
�
�
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All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts 
you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them 
together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- 
IBM maintenance manual, 1925

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