I remember when booking hotel rooms in Wash. DC being told to always ask for 
the government rate, without actually saying you were a government employee.

I wonder if you could just ask vendors for the JAB price.


From: Jason McKemie 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 11:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS

Crap, how well equipped is that?  That's beyond even what you can get a 
reasonably decked out Eltek Minipack shelf for these days, not seeing how they 
could be worth that much. Must be mainly targeting those using OPM. 

On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 8:05 PM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:

  Tessco has them in the $2k range 

  Gino A. Villarini 
  @gvillarini



  On Jan 11, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:


    Yeah, saw them on Newmar.  Usually "call for a quote" is a bad sign.  I 
hear that these are what Jab has standardized on.  They seem pretty robust.  I 
imagine they come with free sticker shock.

    On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:

      Looks interesting… its from Newmar..

      
http://www.newmartelecom.com/Sentinel_Rectifier_System/Sentinel_Rectifier_System.html



      Gino A. Villarini
      President
      Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
      www.aeronetpr.com   
      @aeronetpr



      From: Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com>
      Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
      Date: Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 3:32 PM
      To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS


      Anyone ever tried the Sentinel systems?   
http://gfspower.com.au/products/dc-power-systems/sentinel-power-system/

      On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

        We got these through Allied Electronics.ï¿1Ž2 We got the 5 amp model 
for a couple of small PoPs; we're not so concerned about battery recharge time, 
as the PoPs only need about 1.5 amps (~~ 35 watts) to operate.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/11/2015 10:55 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:

          Were do you buy the Altech? Direct? What model you bought?



          Gino A. Villarini
          President
          Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
          www.aeronetpr.com ï¿1Ž2ï¿1Ž2
          @aeronetpr



          From: Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
          Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
          Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 at 7:04 PM
          To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS


          We just got a couple of the 24V versions and it was only $300 
each.ï¿1Ž2 About the same as the Traco for the two separate units.ï¿1Ž2 I sure 
appreciate the differences, but I was looking for extra-small form factor on a 
DIN rail.ï¿1Ž2 Because this site is on AC power 99.99% of the time, it's not a 
big deal (to me) if it takes 24 or even 48 hours to get a full charge.ï¿1Ž2 
IIRC, these units also have LVD.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/6/2015 10:26 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) wrote:

            Those are really expensive. A Traco TSP+BCM is several hundred less 
at almost every wattage, last time I looked anyway. I like the split power 
supply and battery module. A lot cheaper to replace a failed component than an 
entire $700-1k all-in-one. But that's just me. The Traco gets you temperature 
compensated charging and LVD. You get contacts for DC input OK, batt OK/fail, 
etc. Hook that up to a SiteMonitor switch closure module and you have pretty 
good remote visibility. Put shunts wherever you want to monitor, battery 
charge/discharge current, output rail current, etc.

            On 1/6/2015 10:49 AM, Bill Prince wrote:

              Try these.ï¿1Ž2 We are about to install a couple of them.ï¿1Ž2 
Some models have ethernet ports for a GUI (no SNMP :-( ).ï¿1Ž2 But they do have 
contacts to send alerts through a SiteMonitor (for example).

              http://www.altechcorp.com/power/CBI-UPS.html


              On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Christopher Tyler 
<ch...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote:

                I'm at my end. I've been looking at this for a while now and 
it's obvious that no one makes an industrial APC UPS that works.

                We've tried the Alpha Cordex (DIN rail) and the ICT (19" rack) 
and neither one can do what a APC management card can. We just need it to 
provide 24vDC to a load and when the AC power goes out, send an alert and let 
us monitor the system status via SNMP.

                Alpha:
                PROS: DIN rail mounted
                CONS: Web interface is IE only, SNMP requests are completely 
broken, have not tested SNMP traps, cost is about $700.

                ICT:
                PROS: It works well as a dumb power supply/charger with UPS 
functionality, web interface works in all browsers.
                CONS: SNMP is limited to about 6 values, all remote 
communication is lost when AC is removed, no battery monitoring at all other 
than the voltage for use with LV cutoff which is one of the values that is not 
available via SNMP. Also costs about $700

                I have to give it to Alpha at this point, at least their unit 
remains "intelligent" when AC power is removed. If they would fix their web 
interface and SNMP it would be perfect.

                So... Does anyone have a solution that works that isn't 
completely cobbled together? I need to know when we lose/regain AC power, that 
the battery is draining, what the battery voltage is so that I know when it's 
about to cut off, it needs a LV cut off to protect the batteries, and all this 
information needs to be available via SNMP and web. Am I asking for too much or 
does something of this nature exist outside of TrippLite and APC?

                --
                Christopher Tyler
                MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
                Total Highspeed Internet Services
                417.851.1107





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