Hi,

I believe the number you are looking for is the sensitivity per modulation
rate minus the base noise floor for a given bandwidth (see Matt's earlier
post). This gives you the required signal over the noise floor. If the
noise floor goes up, the effective sensitivity goes up accordingly.

What am I missing?

Chuck

On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@spitwspots.com> wrote:

>  This.
>
> josh reynolds :: chief information officer
> spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
>
> On 01/12/2015 11:00 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> Matt, that doesn't really help.
>
> In many areas, my noise/interference/whatever is -75. If I knew how much 
> margin was required per modulation, I could figure out how much signal I need 
> for that speed.
>
> I can't do that with your published numbers.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Matt Hardy <m...@ubnt.com> <m...@ubnt.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 12:42:52 -0600 (CST)
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Af5
>
> Hi Mike,
> The numbers in our datasheet do convey the SNR (which assumes AWGN for
> noise value); this is pretty standard among all our datasheets.
> The noise floor value varies based on channel BW, so a rough estimate for
> noise floor would be (50MHz=-97dBm, 40=-98dBm, 30=-99dBm, 20=-101dBm,
> 10=-104dBm).
>
> As far as transmit power / modulation, all modulations up to 64QAM can run
> at full transmit power. 256QAM is ~2dB lower, and 1024QAM is something like
> 4dB lower (it depends on other external factors).
>
> All of this and more is already provided with the integrated link
> configuration tool, including channel bandwidth, duplex frequency spacing,
> TX power and a bunch of other stuff. It's recommended to use this tool to
> configure links because of all of the additional factors.
>
> But if you need to run a simple link calc to estimate a link's performance
> at certain distance, you should have enough info.
>
> Hope that helps...
>
> -Matt
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> 
> <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>
>  Not at all, Matt. Those are receive sensitivities.
>
>
> The left side of this picture is needed for the airFibers. You publish the
> right side only.
>
>
> This information is also not available for the airFibers.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Matt Hardy" <m...@ubnt.com> <m...@ubnt.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, January 9, 2015 5:34:43 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Af5
>
> This?
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> 
> <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>
>  Hard to tell because they won't publish their Tx and SNR requirements.
> I'd just make educated guesses and plug it into a path calc.
>
> BTW: Ben, Matt... where are those numbers?
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Craig House" <cr...@totalhighspeed.net> <cr...@totalhighspeed.net>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, January 8, 2015 3:24:58 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Af5
>
> I have used some AF 24 hours but no AF5 for backhaul yet what is the max
> distance people are seeing for the AF 5 at full modulation
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>
>

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