My garage door still works, I just can’t open it.

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:39 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [BULK] Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

The APs still work fine when the cloud is down. You just lose management and 
I'd assume stats.




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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





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From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:35:37 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant


I wonder how long before we start seeing stickers identifying those things that 
still work when “the cloud” is down.
Maybe an emergency kit of “cloud free” tools for after the apocalypse.


From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

Use one controller on a VM somewhere for all of your managed UniFi devices.

That's worked since the beginning.




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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





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From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:17:48 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant



You need a unifi controller to manage the system.  The individual AP's don't 
have a web page.  You put the controller on the same LAN segment as the AP's 
and it will discover them and add them to the network.

You could use your laptop as the "controller" to set them up and then take it 
with you when you leave.  The AP's will keep working without being able to 
reach the controller.....but don't do that.  If you want to change anything 
later you'd have to go back with the same laptop.  If you want to associate the 
AP's with a different controller you have to default them.  

For a super small deployment I just install the controller software on the 
customer's PC.  Once you get past a handful of AP's then you include a $300 PC 
in the cost estimate.


  So the unifi is like a normal ubnt. Product just program it and leave. It?

  On Jan 13, 2015 10:47 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

    I have a customer yanking out his Meraki’s in a couple months and going to 
UniFi.  We have a installations with them, zero problems.  But you do need a 
management computer.  I have the XClaim radio too that I tested at my house.  
The only problem is no management tool outside your phone and you have to be 
onsite.  They said they will have something in a few months for that.



    Xirrus is enterprise grade and probably as expensive as Meraki with all the 
bells and whistles.  I’d stick to UniFi if it was me for financial reasons if 
you simply want to give away free internet.



    Rory



    From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
    Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:31 AM
    To: af@afmug.com
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant



    I have 2 at home, easy setup. Basic feature set… problem with reatail 
locations like restaurants is that you need control of the users… how much time 
they can browse, when the AP will be available (avoiding night leeches), login 
mechanisms, value added marketing for the host restaurant (like pop ups every x 
min with advertisement) Etc… Retail is a different animal… Meraki even offers 
visit statistics of how many passerbys( mac detected but not registered) , 
users (loged in) with how long they stayed, how recurrently the pass or visit 
ect! Very extensive reports for the host restaurant/retail location 







    Gino A. Villarini

    President

    Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

    www.aeronetpr.com   

    @aeronetpr







    From: Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
    Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
    Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 12:24 PM
    To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant



    We also ordered a few Xclaim AP's and they seem to be performing really 
well and at a great price as well.



    On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Daniel White <afmu...@gmail.com> wrote:

    The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of environment.  Get the 
Ruckus RF engineering technology with the coffee shop type price.

    Installing one in our new office... will have my hands on it on Friday.  
Only need a single AP... and of course it will be lightly loaded (mostly for 
cell phones,etc... computers are hardwired typically).

    Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those units too.

    Daniel White – Managing Director
    SAF North America LLC

    Cell:              (303) 746-3590
    Skype: danieldwhite
    daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com


    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
    > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
    > To: af@afmug.com
    > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
    >

    > The problem I have with Unifi is there really isn't a stand alone feature 
that
    > doesn't require a controller that I know of.  I would like the option of 
logging
    > in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.
    >
    > Cameron Crum wrote:
    > > Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of them in my kid's
    > > school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate networks, one for
    > > teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I don't use the
    > > payments stuff of course and access is still controlled by a CCR
    > > behind it all, but it has not even had so much as a hiccup in over a
    > > year since it went in. This is not even the enterprise version as it
    > > was not out yet when I put the system in.
    > >
    > > Cameron
    > >
    > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com
    > > <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
    > >
    > >     Gino,
    > >
    > >     What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which others have
    > >     you tried?
    > >
    > >     bp
    > >     <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
    > >
    > >     On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
    > >>     Meraki
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>     Gino A. Villarini
    > >>     President
    > >>     Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
    > >>     www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ï¿1Ž2ï¿1Ž2
    > >>     @aeronetpr
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>     From: joseph marsh <bwireless...@gmail.com
    > >>     <mailto:bwireless...@gmail.com>>
    > >>     Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com
    > >>     <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
    > >>     Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
    > >>     To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com
    > >>     <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
    > >>     Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
    > >>
    > >>     Doing WiFi for a restaurantï¿1Ž2ï¿1Ž2ï¿1Ž2 what would be good for
    > >>     deploying WiFiï¿1Ž2
    > >>
    > >>     Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
    > >>
    > >
    > >







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    Minnesota WiFi

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    507-634-WiFi

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