This all sounds like nomenclature and smoke and mirrors.

If there are two antennas; one H and one V, then it would be 2x2 MIMO, unless you are running more than one radio per polarity. Then it's still not 4x4 MIMO, but more like 2x2 PLUS 2x2?


bp
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On 1/14/2015 3:55 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
Yes…and you chain them by a special fiber port



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On 1/14/15, 7:52 PM, "Peter Kranz" <pkr...@unwiredltd.com> wrote:

By another set of radios.. you mean another double-core IP20c feeding
another antenna with spacial diversity?

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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 3:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP20c 4x4 MIMO? Confused

Yeap… and you can double that using another set of radios with the same
channel



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On 1/14/15, 7:34 PM, "Peter Kranz" <pkr...@unwiredltd.com> wrote:

So if you use both cores.. and one core feeds H and the other feeds V
on the same antenna.. what is the maximum throughput in a 80Mhz
channel? Is that the ~1.2Gbps number?

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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 3:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP20c 4x4 MIMO? Confused

A single ip20 has dual core RF, so it can do h/v same channel or
different and h/h or v/v



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On 1/14/15, 7:18 PM, "Peter Kranz" <pkr...@unwiredltd.com> wrote:

So a single IP20C unit does not do a traditional 2x2 MIMO with a
single antenna?

I was under the impression the IP20C would do H and V chains with the
single head.. ~600 per polarity in 80Mhz.. giving ~1.2 Gbps for IP20C
radio..

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-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 2:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP20c 4x4 MIMO? Confused

You need to add to the fact that you can get more 2x the bandwitdh by
adding a second ODU and antenna in a setup similar to spatial
diversity

Using the same channel and polarityŠ

So 4x4 mimo in Ceragon terms is:

4 dual core ODUS a (4 radio paths)

4 Antennas

Using 2 channels ( can be xpic same channel or 2 HH, 2VV )



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On 1/14/15, 6:18 PM, "Caleb Knauer" <cknauer.li...@gmail.com> wrote:

Each ODU has two separate cores, so one "ODU" gives you 2x throughput
of your standard single core ODU we're used to dealing with.  They do
a bunch of crazy things with combiners, MIMO sync, etc and some
creative naming mechanisms.  But in the end your standard IP20C with
both cores on an 80Mhz channel will do 1.2Gbps or so.  The two cores
are layer 1 bonded.

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Peter Kranz <pkr...@unwiredltd.com>
wrote:
How does ³LoS 4X4 MIMO quadrupling capacity using only 2 radio
units² work..? What is the real throughput of this radio?



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