4+0 its not the same, diferrent case
Think of the 4x4 magic as:
using 2 Airfibers in the same path aggregating the bw to 1500 mbps fdx
using the same 100 mhz channel
4+0 is:
using 2 Airfibers in the same path aggregating the bw to 1500 mbps fdx
using the 2 differnet 100 mhz channels
Got it now?
Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr
On 1/14/15, 8:16 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>OK. I think I get it!
>
>But I would still call it (2x2) + (2x2).
>
>Or as you say 4+0.
>
>bp
><part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>On 1/14/2015 4:12 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>> You run 2 radios per antenna
>>
>>
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> President
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> www.aeronetpr.com
>> @aeronetpr
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/14/15, 8:09 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This all sounds like nomenclature and smoke and mirrors.
>>>
>>> If there are two antennas; one H and one V, then it would be 2x2 MIMO,
>>> unless you are running more than one radio per polarity. Then it's
>>>still
>>> not 4x4 MIMO, but more like 2x2 PLUS 2x2?
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 1/14/2015 3:55 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>>>> Yes…and you chain them by a special fiber port
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>> President
>>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>> www.aeronetpr.com
>>>> @aeronetpr
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/14/15, 7:52 PM, "Peter Kranz" <pkr...@unwiredltd.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> By another set of radios.. you mean another double-core IP20c feeding
>>>>> another antenna with spacial diversity?
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter Kranz
>>>>> Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
>>>>> www.UnwiredLtd.com
>>>>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>>>>> Mobile: 510-207-0000
>>>>> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 3:48 PM
>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP20c 4x4 MIMO? Confused
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeap… and you can double that using another set of radios with the
>>>>>same
>>>>> channel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>>> President
>>>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>>> www.aeronetpr.com
>>>>> @aeronetpr
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/14/15, 7:34 PM, "Peter Kranz" <pkr...@unwiredltd.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So if you use both cores.. and one core feeds H and the other feeds
>>>>>>V
>>>>>> on the same antenna.. what is the maximum throughput in a 80Mhz
>>>>>> channel? Is that the ~1.2Gbps number?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter Kranz
>>>>>> Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
>>>>>> www.UnwiredLtd.com
>>>>>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>>>>>> Mobile: 510-207-0000
>>>>>> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 3:32 PM
>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP20c 4x4 MIMO? Confused
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A single ip20 has dual core RF, so it can do h/v same channel or
>>>>>> different and h/h or v/v
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>>>> President
>>>>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>>>> www.aeronetpr.com
>>>>>> @aeronetpr
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/14/15, 7:18 PM, "Peter Kranz" <pkr...@unwiredltd.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So a single IP20C unit does not do a traditional 2x2 MIMO with a
>>>>>>> single antenna?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was under the impression the IP20C would do H and V chains with
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>> single head.. ~600 per polarity in 80Mhz.. giving ~1.2 Gbps for
>>>>>>>IP20C
>>>>>>> radio..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peter Kranz
>>>>>>> Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
>>>>>>> www.UnwiredLtd.com
>>>>>>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>>>>>>> Mobile: 510-207-0000
>>>>>>> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 2:29 PM
>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP20c 4x4 MIMO? Confused
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You need to add to the fact that you can get more 2x the bandwitdh
>>>>>>>by
>>>>>>> adding a second ODU and antenna in a setup similar to spatial
>>>>>>> diversity
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Using the same channel and polarityŠ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So 4x4 mimo in Ceragon terms is:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4 dual core ODUS a (4 radio paths)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4 Antennas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Using 2 channels ( can be xpic same channel or 2 HH, 2VV )
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>>>>> President
>>>>>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>>>>> www.aeronetpr.com
>>>>>>> @aeronetpr
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/14/15, 6:18 PM, "Caleb Knauer" <cknauer.li...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Each ODU has two separate cores, so one "ODU" gives you 2x
>>>>>>>> throughput
>>>>>>>> of your standard single core ODU we're used to dealing with. They
>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>> a bunch of crazy things with combiners, MIMO sync, etc and some
>>>>>>>> creative naming mechanisms. But in the end your standard IP20C
>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>> both cores on an 80Mhz channel will do 1.2Gbps or so. The two
>>>>>>>>cores
>>>>>>>> are layer 1 bonded.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Peter Kranz
>>>>>>>><pkr...@unwiredltd.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> How does ³LoS 4X4 MIMO quadrupling capacity using only 2 radio
>>>>>>>>> units² work..? What is the real throughput of this radio?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Peter Kranz
>>>>>>>>> Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
>>>>>>>>> www.UnwiredLtd.com
>>>>>>>>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>>>>>>>>> Mobile: 510-207-0000
>>>>>>>>> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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