Wow coal dropped didn't it? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 15, 2015 11:03 AM, "Travis Johnson" <t...@ida.net> wrote:
> What's really funny is that everyone thinks electricity is free. We are > still using natural resources to make the electricity: > > In 2013, energy sources and percent share of total electricity generation > were > > - Coal 39% > - Natural Gas 27% > - Nuclear 19% > - Hydropower 7% > - Other Renewable 6% > - Biomass 1.48% > - Geothermal 0.41% > - Solar 0.23% > - Wind 4.13% > - Petroleum 1% > - Other Gases < 1% > > So coal and natural gas make up 66% of electricity production. > > Travis > > > On 1/15/2015 8:51 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Batteries suck too much for that to happen IMO. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Jan 15, 2015 10:48 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > >> Hydrogen seems like a better option to me, or at least a hydrogen >> hybrid. Normally charge at home, work, whatever, but have a hydrogen tank >> for range and quick fill up. >> >> That or a major increase in the electrical systems to have charging >> stations all over and you plug in everywhere you go. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Thursday, January 15, 2015 8:33:33 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices >> >> But that car has to restricted to a couple hundred miles of home. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> On Jan 15, 2015 9:31 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >>> Solar powered car. >>> Solar powered house. >>> Eventually solar powered garden too. >>> Oil? What is oil? >>> >>> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) <li...@packetflux.com> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 14, 2015 8:49 PM >>> *To:* af <af@afmug.com> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices >>> >>> For our future, and totally ignoring the short-term repercussions,one >>> of the best things I think that could happen is that the price of oil to go >>> to like $250/barrel and stay there. >>> >>> We really need to spend the money as a country on moving to whatever's >>> next. There are a lot of viable options which should have costs lower than >>> oil. Unfortunately at $50/barrel the R&D and infrastructure buildout costs >>> look silly to spend. (Why spend billions moving to something that costs >>> basically the same as what we have, with an infrastructure already in >>> place). At the $100/barrel pricing things were finally starting to move >>> in the right direction. At even higher, all of a sudden the political and >>> financial motivation is there to make what should be happening happen. >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 5:59 AM, David Milholen <dmilho...@wletc.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Its a ploy to slow production of more energy efficient vehicles. >>>> >>>> On 1/14/2015 5:30 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: >>>> >>>> There's an old, insightful joke about "what is the best price to sell >>>> barrels of oil for", which states that it's something like "$100, $100, >>>> $100, $100, $20, $20, $100, $100, $100....." >>>> >>>> At $100 everyone is eager to turn up production and do things like >>>> hydraulic fracturing. At $20, there's a lot of hurt in those same >>>> industries. There is a lot of political and economic force in the ability >>>> to effectively increase and decrease the rarity of a commodity, and as a >>>> side effect, it's price, with a turn of a valve. With additional US >>>> sources coming online, and OPEC deciding not to cut production, there's now >>>> a glut in the market. The question is ... at what level is this >>>> sustainable stateside? I haven't seen a good analysis of the impact of >>>> these lower crude prices on domestic production and more importantly our >>>> willingness to invest in growth of our production capabilities. >>>> >>>> Personally, I have mixed feelings. I like the price of gas when I get >>>> to the pump, but I also sell into the oil industry, which I sure hope >>>> continues to drill wells, since it's very good for my bottom line. >>>> >>>> -forrest >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Caleb Knauer <cknauer.li...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yep. Shuts down the oil sands (for a bit), slaps Russia/Venezuela in >>>>> the face, cranks down on the mid-tier producers like Nigeria trying to >>>>> squeeze into the market, etc. It's multiple birds with one stone. US >>>>> oil production will drop, oil sands bubble will pop, and all sorts of >>>>> gloom and doom until prices naturally go back up and we spin up >>>>> production again. The oil guys will take a hammering and I feel bad >>>>> for them, but all bubbles burst. A lot of Americans will have a net >>>>> benefit. Macroeconomics is complex. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 8:40 PM, Jason McKemie >>>>> <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: >>>>> > From what I've read the drop is pretty much exclusively because of >>>>> OPEC. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Tuesday, January 13, 2015, Erich Kaiser < >>>>> er...@northcentraltower.com> >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I think a lot of the low prices are due to abundance of oil right >>>>> here in >>>>> >> the US from Fracking and Tar sands from Canada. I bet eventually >>>>> when the >>>>> >> additional pipeline capacity is completed it may drive things even >>>>> lower, >>>>> >> but that is just my thought. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> It would be nice if they could do the same with grain. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:53 PM, That One Guy < >>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>>>> >> wrote: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> I dont know how petroleum stores, the costs of operating, etc. But >>>>> I look >>>>> >>> at it as right now being a great time to get in on it, when the >>>>> rubber band >>>>> >>> snaps, you would already be at peak production capacity, without >>>>> the export >>>>> >>> and shipping to get it to its destination, in North America at >>>>> least. This >>>>> >>> is an artificially deflated market, it cant be sustained since it >>>>> is >>>>> >>> inherently and artificially inflated market. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:19 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller >>>>> >>> <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> The investment has already been made to build the wells. I know >>>>> it >>>>> >>>> would suck, but why not shut them down until the price goes up >>>>> again, then >>>>> >>>> just resume production? Even under new ownership? Doesn't sound >>>>> like a >>>>> >>>> permanent problem to me... >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >>>> From: Bill Prince >>>>> >>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 10:23 AM >>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> It's Saudi Arabia trying to squeeze out all the marginal >>>>> producers. >>>>> >>>> Initially it will be Russia and some of the other marginals like >>>>> Iraq & >>>>> >>>> Iran. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Pretty sure the shale oil and tar sands guys are hurting big time >>>>> right >>>>> >>>> now. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> bp >>>>> >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> On 1/13/2015 8:03 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> I wonder what is really driving the price down. Fracking, OPEC >>>>> >>>> diaspora, CAFE improvements, Russia problems ??? >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> From: Jeremy >>>>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 8:54 AM >>>>> >>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Thanks Obama! (he gets blamed for EVERYTHING, right??) >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Josh Luthman >>>>> >>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Same up here in Ohio. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 13, 2015 10:35 AM, "joseph marsh" <bwireless...@gmail.com >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> 1.75 here in my area >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 13, 2015 9:35 AM, "Vlad Sedov" <v...@atlasok.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> $1.50 to $1.55 in oklahoma city.. crazy. >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> vlad >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> On 1/13/2015 9:32 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> I never thought I would see gas prices this low. We have >>>>> stations at >>>>> >>>>>>>> $1.71/gallon in our area right now. :) >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> Travis >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> -- >>>>> >>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember >>>>> that the >>>>> >>> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if >>>>> you can't >>>>> >>> get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do >>>>> not use a >>>>> >>> hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >
