How long did it take you to find the county  "wireless admin" ?   In our 
county, it should be us, but we're the WISP, not the company that does 
wireless/radio work.  (think radios in police cars / public safety)

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 10:17 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP


  somebody sees the light at the end of the tunnel :)
  gotta luv unsync'd spectrum hog based gear.
  Im hitting the deck on that one LOL


  On 01/22/2015 08:53 AM, John Woodfield wrote:

    But will they enforce it with all the amateurs running around throwing up 
UBNT stuff everywhere? Its gotten really bad around here. Nobody even bothers 
to do spectrum analysis. Heck the county government starting throwing up rocket 
dishes at full power blasting 40mhz channels all over the place...







    John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937



    -----Original Message-----
    From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]>
    Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:49am
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP





    Oh you missed that?  Out of band emissions limits will be based on EIRP 
instead of Tx power.  So a linksys router with a 3db antenna probably doesn't 
have to change anything, but anything with big panels/dishes/sectors has to 
reduce their OOB emissions accordingly.  The end result is staying legal in 
5ghz will require expensive filters added to the equipment, or a reduction in 
tx power, or a reduction in antenna gain, or a combination of the three.

    I think that's about the size of it.


      Ok What did I miss. New 5ghz rules???







      John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 
708-1937



      -----Original Message-----
      From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]>
      Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:28am
      To: [email protected]
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP



      So did all you folks stop worrying about the 5 GHz rules? They are 
already 
      a done deal, the end of new equipment authorization is coming soon, to be 
      followed by end of sale.

      Seems like this is as big an issue if not bigger than having to pay into 
USF 
      which, let's face it, we just turn around and add as a below-the-line 
charge 
      on customer bills. Customers have already proved they don't pay attention 
      to below-the-line charges, plus all the competition would be doing it as 
      well. The main downside I see is if they increase the size of the CAF 
fund 
      and our big competition gets even more subsidies to overbuild us.


      -----Original Message----- 
      From: Rory Conaway
      Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:14 AM
      To: [email protected]
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP

      You should change it to, "when required by corrupt, geriatric, ignorant, 
and 
      moronic government politicians". There is no question why Obama is 
pushing 
      this, he is an ideological idiot with absolutely no management or 
economic 
      skills. Add to that his feelings are hurt that the rest of the country is 
      now seeing him for the egomaniac immature child that he is. Wheeler is 
now 
      just trying to keep his job temporarily but I guarantee is trying to find 
a 
      way out of this that preserves his lobbying business. The second he can 
      get out, preserve his reputation, and probably not let his boss destroy 
the 
      country and his future/former clients any further economically than he 
      already has, including the 1200 new regulations taking effect now that 
will 
      cost at least $200B this year alone, he's gone.

      All I know is I didn't go far enough with my Tom Wheeler article. Obama 
      blindsided me on his need to destroy another industry and make government 
      bigger.

      Rory


      -----Original Message-----
      From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
      Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 10:21 PM
      To: [email protected]
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP

      We have always had the disclaimer in our service agreement that it would 
      include taxes/surcharges if/when required by the government. Doesn't make 
      it taste any better, but it covers the reality.

      bp
      <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

      On 1/21/2015 6:23 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
      > On 1/21/15 18:07, Rory Conaway wrote:
      >> I think we need to tell every single customer why the rates went up.
      >> There is another election in 2 years.
      >>
      >
      >
      > Your rates aren't going up. The explanation to the customer is simple:
      > "the total bill is higher because the government added a new tax. The
      > pre-tax price of service hasn't changed. We're not making any money
      > off this, if anything it adds more overhead to collect it. If you're
      > unhappy with this tax then call/write your representatives in congress."
      >
      > ~Seth





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