I agree.  On our network I try to always turn off MAC cloning when doing
installs for that very reason.  However, when working with a cable company
it is less problematic than calling them.

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 10:35 PM, That One Guy <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I hate cloned Macs because of factory defaults down the road, though in
> this case it would have been fine since its going away in a short period
> anyway
> On Jan 28, 2015 9:03 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@spitwspots.com> wrote:
>
>> This.
>>
>> This is why so many devices support mac cloning on their wan interface
>>
>> On January 28, 2015 5:59:11 PM AKST, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've always just cloned the old MAC to avoid dealing with the cable co.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:35 PM, John Woodfield <john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Or Linktechs lol (sorry guys couldn't resist)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410)
>>>> 708-1937
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 3:52pm
>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cable modem question
>>>>
>>>>  As long as you're not my customer, yes.
>>>>
>>>>  Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:45 PM, That One Guy <
>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So im golden for becoming the dick customer telling the tech what to
>>>>> do?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sounds normal from what I remember, too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:36 PM, John Woodfield <
>>>>>> john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, that is typical behavior for a cable modem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410)
>>>>>>> 708-1937
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: "That One Guy" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 3:34pm
>>>>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] cable modem question
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  what i see with one provider is that when you start a cable modem
>>>>>>> it is a DHCP server (motorola surfoboards) handing out a 192.168.100.x 
>>>>>>> Ip
>>>>>>> gatewaying to the management interface 192.168.100.1 of the modem.
>>>>>>> After the device completes network entry it converts to a bridge and
>>>>>>> you get your public IP space
>>>>>>> i assume this is a common practice, but i dont know, we only deal
>>>>>>> with one cable company around here.
>>>>>>> I hate this joint because they MAC filter for static IP space, which
>>>>>>> if fine and good, but its an up to 24 hour provisioning time to be able 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> switch out a firewall.
>>>>>>> So today we went to go swap one prior to the provision, and after we
>>>>>>> put in our device and restarted their cable modem, it would never hand 
>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>> anything other than the internal management range from the modem, like 
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> never completed network entry. Called them, and their tech said he could
>>>>>>> see the physical connection, but no MAC. I kept telling him it was 
>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>> handed the management range from the surfboard, he kept assuring me the
>>>>>>> modem was strictly a bridge and contained no DHCP server ever at any 
>>>>>>> point.
>>>>>>> I finally told him to reprovision the device in their system, he
>>>>>>> said it wouldnt o any good but complied. After restart it completed 
>>>>>>> entry
>>>>>>> and we got public IP assignment.
>>>>>>> I assume network entry isnt the correct term for cable modems being
>>>>>>> configured once they register to the network. But is this how its 
>>>>>>> supposed
>>>>>>> to work where the modem is a dhcp server (I assume i router) until the
>>>>>>> cableco says otherwise to it? Its how Ive always seen it happen. At home
>>>>>>> once, after a flood of DMCA hits, they blacklisted my modem and this was
>>>>>>> the behavior, like their system refused to let it enter and convert to a
>>>>>>> bridge.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>  All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember
>>>>>>> that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. 
>>>>>>> Therefore, if
>>>>>>> you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all 
>>>>>>> means, do
>>>>>>> not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>  All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
>>>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
>>>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do 
>>>>> not
>>>>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>
>

Reply via email to