No one on this List or the FCC will convince me that the telco needed this to 
get federal funds to help them with network builds.  THEY have PISSED AWAY all 
USF funds they keep getting.  How the hell do you think Century Link bought 
Embarq!

The USF FEE has been around since 1934 and added to in 1996.  All for the very 
purpose to support these idiots.  

I want everyone who voted for this rule fired and citizenship revoked!

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> On Jan 31, 2015, at 9:53 AM, Rex-List Account <xorex63l...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey I know Jack Schitt. Nice fella.
>  
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNqLSch84aQ
> Not sure if he is a Comcast customer though. J
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 11:12 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
>  
> Jack Shit?  Is he another Comcast customer?
> http://elliott.org/blog/hello-dummy-comcast-calls-customers-shocking-names/
>  
>  
> From: Mike Hammett
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 10:29 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
>  
> According to Corran, it doesn't mean jack shit yet. There's no regulation or 
> funding tied to it.
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 7:06:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
> 
> Doesn't this just mean if you don't offer service of at least 25mbps your 
> area won't count as served? I'm pretty sure you can call your service 
> whatever you damn well please.
> 
> On Friday, January 30, 2015, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:
> Keep in mind the cable companies don't get federal subsidies.  The cable data 
> operations are unregulated information service exactly like us, and they can 
> easily meet the 25/3. 
>  
> They are opposed because it means the telcos are going to be given federal 
> money to upgrade to 25/3 and become competition.
>  
> Cable spends it's own money to compete, just like us.  They are equally 
> ticked over changing the definition so that their competition, who has not 
> spent their own money, and waited for government handouts is going to be 
> rewarded.
> 
> 
> Mark Radabaugh
> Amplex
> 27800 Lemoyne, Ste F
> Millbury, OH 43447
> 419-261-5996
> 
> On Jan 30, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I found it interesting that the cable companies were claiming to be against 
> this change.  This seems handcrafted by them if you ask me.  Every year when 
> they request funding the WISPs in those areas (with the help of WISPA) file 
> claims against them receiving those funds under the basis that 'broadband' is 
> already available in those areas where they are claiming that it is not.  
> This has actually worked fairly well in keeping those entities from receiving 
> those funds.  Now, almost none of us meet the 'broadband' qualification and 
> now they can use the government funds to build out on top of us almost 
> uncontested.
>  
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My company is called 'Blue Spring Broadband'.  I will not be changing my 
> name.  We offer dedicated connections up to 100Mbps, and more on a 
> case-by-case basis (ie. I would offer 1Gbps near the NOC to anyone willing to 
> pay for it).  Although we do not offer more than 15x3 to residential 
> currently, I still believe we can be classified as a broadband service 
> provider.  I happily give quotes on a 25x25 dedicated unlimited connection to 
> any residential customers that ask for it ($1K/mo. roughly).  Until some 
> governing entity tells me different that is my stance.
>  
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
> It’s depressing to think about all the government money that went to 
> subsidize 1 Mbps (if that) Hughesnet service under the recovery act.
>  
> The contradiction is like setting a standard that every citizen must get 
> fresh whole grain organic locally grown low sugar low sodium food, just a 
> couple years after handing out pork rinds, moon pies and Jolt cola in the 
> school lunch program.
>  
>  
> From: Bill Prince
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 3:22 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
>  
> +1.  They have the added complication that they are way oversubscribed 
> compared to almost everything else.
> 
> Let's not even mention latency. 
> 
> If "broadband" included something about latency (like "just" < 200 ms for 
> instance), then they would lose big time.
> 
> 
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>  
> On 1/30/2015 1:17 PM, Glen Waldrop wrote:
> Doubtful. They can't sustain those speeds wide spread any better than we can.
>  
>  
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: That One Guy
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 3:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
>  
> at those sustained speeds, the only tech that could realistically deliver to 
> the rural market right now would be satellite wouldnt it
>  
>  
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 2:46 PM, SmarterBroadband 
> <li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:
> +1
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 12:21 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
>  
> Even if you don’t deliver 25Mbps as defined, can’t you just put a plan rate 
> for 25Mbps and give it some ridiculous price that no one will ever buy, then 
> claim broadband?
>  
> I mean the other lower plan rates wouldn’t be broadband, but your company 
> could be branded as selling broadband?
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyson Burris @ Internet 
> Communications Inc
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 12:40 PM
> To: memb...@wispa.org
> Cc: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
>  
> 1.       Is the 25Mbps classification immediate?
> 2.       What are you NOW going to call your previously determined 
> ‘broadband’ service?
>  
>  
> Tyson Burris, President 
> Internet Communications Inc. 
> 739 Commerce Dr. 
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