I really can't see a good reason for airFiber not to have an SFP port... I
really don't think anyone would mind if it added a couple bucks to the
cost. I think it would even make sense to have an SFP option on something
like the titanium Rockets... the standard Rockets, no probably not.

On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> You can do that on a separate DC system. I've seen multiple manufacturers
> say you can't on a PoE system.
>
> Are your links filling the GigE?
>
> Most of the time people aren't concerned with protecting the radio, but
> whatever likely more expensive gear is inside or the structure itself.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 8:40:31 AM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With
> AFiber        port?
>
>  Many manufacturers recommend surge protectors at both ends.  It’s
> certainly possible, I have licensed gigabit POE radios with protectors top
> and bottom and no errors.
>
> I’ve never seen how a surge protector at the bottom of the tower protects
> the radio at the top, seems like it protects the router/switch/POE.
>
> Not saying I love my Purewave system, but it has 48VDC on a separate pair
> of wires and they have you put DC protectors top and bottom.  They told me
> field failures of basestations went way down with the addition of the DC
> protectors.  And capacitance is no issue, you can put big old MOVs, gas
> tubes, diodes, whatever you want on there to absorb the surge.
>
>
>  *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 03, 2015 7:04 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber
> port?
>
>  Easier to protect power alone than power + data. Usually I see the data
> going out anyway vs. the power side.
>
> I really did mean ESD as I separated ESD and lightning.
>
> Usually the manufacturer recommends only one additional surge suppression
> device as to data capacitance issues. That restriction goes away with
> separate power + data (over fiber).
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 10:48:29 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With
> AFiber        port?
>
>  Why do you say no more ESD issues?  (I think you really mean lightning
> issues, I don’t buy this wind blowing across the plastic nonsense.)
>
> A lot of the time when radios get zapped, it’s the power circuitry that’s
> damaged.  You are still powering the radio over copper.  Until you figure
> out how to power it with light, you are vulnerable to surges.
>
> It helps a lot if you put a DC surge protector right at the radio, but how
> many people do?
>
> And as long as you have a coax jumper to the antenna, you are vulnerable
> to surges finding a path from the antenna to ground via the radio.  Again,
> can be mitigated with a good coax surge protector, but how many people do
> that?
>
> Inside a POE fed radio, there should be transformers in the data path,
> it’s the power path that has DC continuity.  The Ethernet transformers
> should provide quite a bit of resistance to surges due to primary/secondary
> isolation, possibly a ground foil between primary and secondary, plus
> differential surges should be attenuated by transformer core saturation.
> So the most vulnerable circuitry is the power path.  Which still exists if
> you have DC power and data over fiber.
>
>
>  *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 10:35 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber
> port?
>
>  No more ESD issues. No more lightning issues. No more RF issues.
>
> *EVERYTHING* on a tower should be fiber.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Brett A Mansfield" <br...@silverlakeinternet.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 9:54:16 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A
> Fiber        port?
>
> I personally wouldn't want to have to run fiber and power to the airFiber.
> One cable is already enough. There is really no reason for fiber on any of
> their products. With that said, it's pretty cheap to put the SFP on. There
> is also no reason they cannot put them both on at least the airFiber.
>
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield
>
> On Feb 2, 2015, at 8:45 PM, Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>  It cannot possibly cost very much - a $35 rb260gs has a sfp port...
>
> On Monday, February 2, 2015, Peter Kranz <pkr...@unwiredltd.com> wrote:
>
>>  I don’t think this passes the economic factors model for them.. I don’t
>> think they would sell enough of them to make it worth the engineering, mold
>> work, etc…
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Peter Kranz*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
>> www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/>
>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>> Mobile: 510-207-0000
>> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *timothy steele
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 4:57 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber
>> port?
>>
>>
>>
>> posting this Survay on All the forums Want to see what you guys think
>> Should UBNT Make A Radio with a Fiber Port? I Will Send the Graph to the
>> UBNT Team
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8SPM9NT
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>
>
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