There's clearly a market for radios with SFP ports, I really don't understand why they aren't making them. MIkrotik routers only cost $5-$10 extra with an SFP port, so it can't cost that much, and that can easily be passed on to us without anyone complaining... well, assuming they keep making a cheap version without SFP, I imagine there would be riots on the ubiquiti forums if they tried to raise the price of radios by more than $0.12
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > Exactly. Run two cables with 24 or more strands up diverse paths. SFP to > each device. I'd like to see dual SFPs on every device and SFP+s on devices > that could possibly surpass 1G, but one step at a time. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:17:18 AM > > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber > port? > > If literally every device on the tower had an SFP I'd be in heaven. I'd > run TWO cables for DOZENS of devices. Fiber patch cables everywhere on the > tower!!! > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > >> SFP every single tower and enterprise device. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 9:30:02 AM >> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With >> AFiber port? >> >> SFP should be on backhauls. For APs I don't think I'd use it. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> On Feb 3, 2015 10:22 AM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I really can't see a good reason for airFiber not to have an SFP port... >>> I really don't think anyone would mind if it added a couple bucks to the >>> cost. I think it would even make sense to have an SFP option on something >>> like the titanium Rockets... the standard Rockets, no probably not. >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >>> >>>> You can do that on a separate DC system. I've seen multiple >>>> manufacturers say you can't on a PoE system. >>>> >>>> Are your links filling the GigE? >>>> >>>> Most of the time people aren't concerned with protecting the radio, but >>>> whatever likely more expensive gear is inside or the structure itself. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> >>>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 8:40:31 AM >>>> >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With >>>> AFiber port? >>>> >>>> Many manufacturers recommend surge protectors at both ends. It’s >>>> certainly possible, I have licensed gigabit POE radios with protectors top >>>> and bottom and no errors. >>>> >>>> I’ve never seen how a surge protector at the bottom of the tower >>>> protects the radio at the top, seems like it protects the >>>> router/switch/POE. >>>> >>>> Not saying I love my Purewave system, but it has 48VDC on a separate >>>> pair of wires and they have you put DC protectors top and bottom. They >>>> told me field failures of basestations went way down with the addition of >>>> the DC protectors. And capacitance is no issue, you can put big old MOVs, >>>> gas tubes, diodes, whatever you want on there to absorb the surge. >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 03, 2015 7:04 AM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With >>>> AFiber port? >>>> >>>> Easier to protect power alone than power + data. Usually I see the >>>> data going out anyway vs. the power side. >>>> >>>> I really did mean ESD as I separated ESD and lightning. >>>> >>>> Usually the manufacturer recommends only one additional surge >>>> suppression device as to data capacitance issues. That restriction goes >>>> away with separate power + data (over fiber). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> >>>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>>> *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 10:48:29 PM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With >>>> AFiber port? >>>> >>>> Why do you say no more ESD issues? (I think you really mean >>>> lightning issues, I don’t buy this wind blowing across the plastic >>>> nonsense.) >>>> >>>> A lot of the time when radios get zapped, it’s the power circuitry >>>> that’s damaged. You are still powering the radio over copper. Until you >>>> figure out how to power it with light, you are vulnerable to surges. >>>> >>>> It helps a lot if you put a DC surge protector right at the radio, but >>>> how many people do? >>>> >>>> And as long as you have a coax jumper to the antenna, you are >>>> vulnerable to surges finding a path from the antenna to ground via the >>>> radio. Again, can be mitigated with a good coax surge protector, but how >>>> many people do that? >>>> >>>> Inside a POE fed radio, there should be transformers in the data path, >>>> it’s the power path that has DC continuity. The Ethernet transformers >>>> should provide quite a bit of resistance to surges due to primary/secondary >>>> isolation, possibly a ground foil between primary and secondary, plus >>>> differential surges should be attenuated by transformer core saturation. >>>> So the most vulnerable circuitry is the power path. Which still exists if >>>> you have DC power and data over fiber. >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> >>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 10:35 PM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With >>>> AFiber port? >>>> >>>> No more ESD issues. No more lightning issues. No more RF issues. >>>> >>>> *EVERYTHING* on a tower should be fiber. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: *"Brett A Mansfield" <br...@silverlakeinternet.com> >>>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>>> *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 9:54:16 PM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A >>>> Fiber port? >>>> >>>> I personally wouldn't want to have to run fiber and power to the >>>> airFiber. One cable is already enough. There is really no reason for fiber >>>> on any of their products. With that said, it's pretty cheap to put the SFP >>>> on. There is also no reason they cannot put them both on at least the >>>> airFiber. >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> Brett A Mansfield >>>> >>>> On Feb 2, 2015, at 8:45 PM, Jason McKemie < >>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> It cannot possibly cost very much - a $35 rb260gs has a sfp port... >>>> >>>> On Monday, February 2, 2015, Peter Kranz <pkr...@unwiredltd.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don’t think this passes the economic factors model for them.. I >>>>> don’t think they would sell enough of them to make it worth the >>>>> engineering, mold work, etc… >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Peter Kranz*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd >>>>> www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> >>>>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 >>>>> Mobile: 510-207-0000 >>>>> pkr...@unwiredltd.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *timothy steele >>>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 4:57 PM >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A >>>>> Fiber port? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> posting this Survay on All the forums Want to see what you guys think >>>>> Should UBNT Make A Radio with a Fiber Port? I Will Send the Graph to the >>>>> UBNT Team >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8SPM9NT >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > >
