Tangent... 

I understand property rights and all, but I'd like to see automatic approval 
for all ROW requests by qualified entities. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Trevor Bough" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 6:56:45 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link 


Apparently Missourians fight to protect their property rights more vigorously 
because, here anyway, it is a lengthy and expensive process. Landowners in MO 
can also be awarded legal fees if the condemning authority drops or loses the 
case of eminent domain, so it is definitely not a, "This guy is being 
difficult, we'll show him." fix-all. 
http://watchdog.org/88546/missouri-landowners-win-in-eminent-domain-test-case/ 
Looks like it wasn't always the case here though. 


On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Chuck McCown < [email protected] > wrote: 






I have done it several times. In my cases it was pretty much the easy button. 
Just had to wait for the docket. 




From: Trevor Bough 
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 6:21 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link 


It's not quite that easy... You have to be authorized by the state to be able 
to use eminent domain and even then it is a very lengthy process (minimum of 
six months typically) and it has to be for "public use", which a utility can 
qualify as, but even after going to court for six months or more to prove that 
this is necessary for the public you are still at the mercy of the quart ruling 
that you are right and now have the luxury of paying the landowner for the 
access. It's not some magic automatic "Easy Button". 
On Feb 26, 2015 1:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" < [email protected] > wrote: 



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If you need to cross property with your pole line or underground line, you can 
do so under the right of eminent domain. Landowner has no say so. You go to 
court, the judge bangs the gavel, and voila, instant ROW. However at that point 
in time the tables turn somewhat in the favor of the landowner as you have to 
compensate them for what you have taken. 

That that typically ends up at a place where it became a very expensive ROW... 

What you are talking about below is the establishment of a prescriptive ROW 
through your failure to defend your property. Another word for it is 
acquiescence or adverse possession. You can certainly lose your right to defend 
if you sit on your rights. So, yea, if they didn't have an easement or court 
order, cut down that pole. 

-----Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 12:27 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link 

What eminent domain actions can a utility take? My "knowledge" on that 
topic is all hearsay. 

I heard of a landowner who saw a company putting a pole in an empty lot 
that he owned across the street from his house. He watched them set the 
pole and then after the workers left he went out with a chainsaw and cut 
it down because they never asked him if they could put the pole there 
(so the story went). In his point of view, if he let them put the pole 
there, they have permanent rights to access that spot on his property 
because of eminent domain. 


<blockquote>
You may even have the right of eminent domain now. 




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