is this msrp pricing with potential of vendor discounts or is it a hard set price?
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:04 PM, That One Guy <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > so the minimum for a full 360 degree pop and still have near spec > performance would realistically start at 36k aside from site incidentals to > support the product? > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 9:21 PM, Glen Waldrop <gwl...@cngwireless.net> > wrote: > >> That's what I needed to know. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Patrick Leary <patrick.le...@telrad.com> >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:16 PM >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] About $12k >> >> One BTS, included embedded EPC with MAC level authentication (cheapest >> option) supporting up to 50 clients. Antenna could be swapped for any >> other. NOTE: this exclude any NMS pieces, but you could just connect over >> Telnet or direct connect. This would be the BAREST of bones, but there it >> is. That's still LTE and about 100 Mbps with killer NLOS. >> >> >> >> Includes: >> >> >> >> 735270 >> >> CMP.XT-BS-3.4-3.7 >> >> 1 >> >> 715773 >> >> LTE COMPACT SW License >> >> 1 >> >> 700258 >> >> BMAX-4M-GPS >> >> 1 >> >> 300736 >> >> ANT 3.3-3.8GHz,18 dBi, 65deg, 4ports >> (RF cables NOT included) >> >> 1 >> >> 715620 >> >> BreezeWay-1010-50 >> (per Compact HW license) >> >> 1 >> >> 715621 >> >> BreezeWay-1010-iHSS-50 >> (50 subs. license) >> >> 1 >> >> SLA >> >> 1 Year SLA >> >> 1 >> >> >> >> >> >> *Patrick Leary* >> >> *M* 727.501.3735 >> >> <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Patrick Leary >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:08 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New feedback >> >> >> >> No, could be much less. Give me a minute... >> >> >> >> *Patrick Leary* >> >> *M* 727.501.3735 >> >> <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:05 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New feedback >> >> >> >> Probably 20k to start. Quality over quantity. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Mar 3, 2015 8:56 PM, "John Woodfield" <john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz> wrote: >> >> Patrick, >> >> >> >> I haven't had time to read through all this emails. Can you summarize >> what the lowest cost get up and running on a tower is so I can consider >> this further along with cost per sub? >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> John Woodfield, President >> >> Delmarva WiFi Inc. >> >> 410-870-WiFi >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Patrick Leary" <patrick.le...@telrad.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:41pm >> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback >> >> Alvarion did that. I admit, I'm not a fan of capping Glen. It is a >> gimmick. The hardware is what it is, and this hardware is expensive. 30dBm >> per port. 4 tx/4rx. Power is expensive. The highest quality DSPs on the >> market. not consumer grade stuff with the sensitivity of your in home Wi-Fi >> router. We build our own phy from the ground up too, our own ATPC >> algorithms too. >> >> >> >> On the software, we do that though -- enabling modularity and scale as >> you need to. I think I need to do a dedicated webinar to this community to >> walk you guys (or those inclined) through it (any takers?). I do not think >> we can be a solution that makes sense where you only have 15 clients. >> That's the blunt truth. Unless you are doing 50 Mbps customers, I am not >> your micropop (but I can do that in some modest scale). That said, I wonder >> where that 15 number comes from? Can you please explain on what >> architecture that is based? Range? Height? Etc. If it is based on a >> micropop and even then on what just that pop can see, I'd say that's likely >> a model invented out of necessity due to the poor performance of the system >> you are using. >> >> >> >> I had a guy on a call today. He zoomed me in on Google Earth to his >> "NLOS" area. Farmland with wind breaks and shade trees for the homes. He is >> at 400' and can't connect squat behind those breaks. In my world, that's >> LOS all the way, even at 150 ft. It is total garbage that so many systems >> to can't deal with that and you've all been fed that that is "normal." It >> is not. It is just gear with terrible specs where the only R&D is at the >> software level, and even that is scant. ....You do not have NLOS problems. >> You have equipment problems. How such a product ever was allowed to go to >> market as a "solution" for rural broadband is, to me, cynical and >> reflective of playing a market to skim opportunistic dollars from a market >> segment that sometimes seems to embrace abuse. Sort of like the poor 700 >> MHz owners who got sucked in to buying 20 year old Marconi WipLL repackaged >> as a 700 MHz "solution" because all there was to buy. Then vendors do that >> crap and THEN, THEN tell you there's no backward compatibility when they >> come out with something new? >> >> >> >> WISPs. Sometimes you guys drive me nuts. You are like cheerleaders that >> love to date the quarterbacks who abuse you. That is like selling a car >> that falls apart once you leave residential streets. None of you should >> ever have accepted these golf carts to run your fleets. Sometimes, cheap is >> just cheap. >> >> >> >> Boy, I'm gonna hear it from my vendor peers, but this ain't a game or >> just a job for me. I damn sure hope it ain't that for you either. >> >> >> >> *Patrick Leary* >> >> *M* 727.501.3735 >> >> <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Glen Waldrop >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:08 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New feedback >> >> >> >> Sort of off topic, but what would be the smallest AP we could get? >> >> I'm thinking about using this system on a few of my towers to make sure >> we never leave without a new customer, but I serve a very rural area. >> >> I have some towers with 15 clients. >> >> Is an omni + GPS sync or narrow channel out of the question? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> *From:* Patrick Leary <patrick.le...@telrad.com> >> >> *To:* tel...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com >> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 4:42 PM >> >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] New feedback >> >> >> >> This is an interesting bit of commentary from one of our new customers. >> If he wishes to identify himself, he will.... >> >> >> >> *Patrick Leary* >> >> *M* 727.501.3735 >> >> <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* >> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 2:31 AM >> *To:* Patrick Leary; Nick Dewar >> *Subject:* Interesting Statistic >> >> >> >> "Patrick / Nick – >> >> >> >> Our Director of Operations, which you both met in St Louis, sent out an >> interesting email to our staff this evening. In February with only 20 >> working days we completed 40 installs with one technician... This is >> only icing on the cake, especially since we are onboarding two more techs. >> .. I ran some additional numbers and found that out of the “Telrad” >> installations that we scheduled, 100 % were successful both of these >> months. This is a game changer, and it proves that we can eliminate the >> need to waste further time with the dreaded site surveys. Our success is >> not without the help of Telrad’s Compact solution. Truly amazing and >> inspiring, excited for our aggressive expansion this spring/summer/fall. I >> cannot wait to have hundreds of these damn things in the air. >> >> >> >> Excited and thankful to be a part of the LTE Beta, and am thankful for >> the “Holy Grail” email that introduced us to the product...." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ************************************************************************************ >> This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by >> PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & >> computer viruses. >> >> ************************************************************************************ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ************************************************************************************ >> This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by >> PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & >> computer viruses. >> >> ************************************************************************************ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ************************************************************************************ >> This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by >> PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & >> computer viruses. >> >> ************************************************************************************ >> >> >> >> >> >> ************************************************************************************ >> This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by >> PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & >> computer viruses. >> >> ************************************************************************************ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ************************************************************************************ >> This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by >> PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & >> computer viruses. >> >> ************************************************************************************ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ************************************************************************************ >> This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by >> PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & >> computer viruses. >> >> ************************************************************************************ >> >> >> >> >> >> ************************************************************************************ >> This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by >> PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & >> computer viruses. >> >> ************************************************************************************ >> >> > > > -- > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team > as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. > -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.