Ouch. I haven't ruled out trying it myself either :) On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:40 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> The people here don't get out much. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Tuesday, March 3, 2015 10:25:50 PM > > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] New feedback > > "If" being the operative term. Until I personally test it, or I hear from > other regulars on this list that are using it, it's pie in the sky to me. > I'm not closed off to the idea, just skeptical for obvious reasons. > > On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > >> Patrick's not here to make friends. >> >> He does have a point, though. If a product is revolutionary, you can't >> look at it the same way everything else. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Glen Waldrop" <gwl...@cngwireless.net> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 3, 2015 9:19:22 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] New feedback >> >> The 15 number comes from rural area. I have some towers that can only hit >> a few homes. Of those few, some still have OTA TV and rotary phones. They >> have no need nor want for Internet. Don't get hung up on that. >> >> I'm looking at probably 4 of these strategically placed in my network to >> cover any blind spots I might have over my coverage area. >> >> I'm not following, "capping"? >> >> Aside from that, this email came off more than a bit condesending. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Patrick Leary >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 7:41 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New feedback >> >> Alvarion did that. I admit, I'm not a fan of capping Glen. It is a >> gimmick. The hardware is what it is, and this hardware is expensive. 30dBm >> per port. 4 tx/4rx. Power is expensive. The highest quality DSPs on the >> market. not consumer grade stuff with the sensitivity of your in home Wi-Fi >> router. We build our own phy from the ground up too, our own ATPC >> algorithms too. >> >> >> >> On the software, we do that though -- enabling modularity and scale as >> you need to. I think I need to do a dedicated webinar to this community to >> walk you guys (or those inclined) through it (any takers?). I do not think >> we can be a solution that makes sense where you only have 15 clients. >> That's the blunt truth. Unless you are doing 50 Mbps customers, I am not >> your micropop (but I can do that in some modest scale). That said, I wonder >> where that 15 number comes from? Can you please explain on what >> architecture that is based? Range? Height? Etc. If it is based on a >> micropop and even then on what just that pop can see, I'd say that's likely >> a model invented out of necessity due to the poor performance of the system >> you are using. >> >> >> >> I had a guy on a call today. He zoomed me in on Google Earth to his >> "NLOS" area. Farmland with wind breaks and shade trees for the homes. He is >> at 400' and can't connect squat behind those breaks. In my world, that's >> LOS all the way, even at 150 ft. It is total garbage that so many systems >> to can't deal with that and you've all been fed that that is "normal." It >> is not. It is just gear with terrible specs where the only R&D is at the >> software level, and even that is scant. ....You do not have NLOS problems. >> You have equipment problems. How such a product ever was allowed to go to >> market as a "solution" for rural broadband is, to me, cynical and >> reflective of playing a market to skim opportunistic dollars from a market >> segment that sometimes seems to embrace abuse. Sort of like the poor 700 >> MHz owners who got sucked in to buying 20 year old Marconi WipLL repackaged >> as a 700 MHz "solution" because all there was to buy. Then vendors do that >> crap and THEN, THEN tell you there's no backward compatibility when they >> come out with something new? >> >> >> >> WISPs. Sometimes you guys drive me nuts. You are like cheerleaders that >> love to date the quarterbacks who abuse you. That is like selling a car >> that falls apart once you leave residential streets. None of you should >> ever have accepted these golf carts to run your fleets. Sometimes, cheap is >> just cheap. >> >> >> >> Boy, I'm gonna hear it from my vendor peers, but this ain't a game or >> just a job for me. I damn sure hope it ain't that for you either. >> >> >> >> *Patrick Leary* >> >> *M* 727.501.3735 >> >> <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Glen Waldrop >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:08 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New feedback >> >> >> >> Sort of off topic, but what would be the smallest AP we could get? >> >> I'm thinking about using this system on a few of my towers to make sure >> we never leave without a new customer, but I serve a very rural area. >> >> I have some towers with 15 clients. >> >> Is an omni + GPS sync or narrow channel out of the question? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> *From:* Patrick Leary >> >> *To:* tel...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com >> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 4:42 PM >> >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] New feedback >> >> >> >> This is an interesting bit of commentary from one of our new customers. >> If he wishes to identify himself, he will.... >> >> >> >> *Patrick Leary* >> >> *M* 727.501.3735 >> >> <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* >> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 2:31 AM >> *To:* Patrick Leary; Nick Dewar >> *Subject:* Interesting Statistic >> >> >> >> "Patrick / Nick – >> >> >> >> Our Director of Operations, which you both met in St Louis, sent out an >> interesting email to our staff this evening. In February with only 20 >> working days we completed 40 installs with one technician... This is >> only icing on the cake, especially since we are onboarding two more techs. >> .. I ran some additional numbers and found that out of the “Telrad” >> installations that we scheduled, 100 % were successful both of these >> months. This is a game changer, and it proves that we can eliminate the >> need to waste further time with the dreaded site surveys. Our success is >> not without the help of Telrad’s Compact solution. Truly amazing and >> inspiring, excited for our aggressive expansion this spring/summer/fall. I >> cannot wait to have hundreds of these damn things in the air. >> >> >> >> Excited and thankful to be a part of the LTE Beta, and am thankful for >> the “Holy Grail” email that introduced us to the product...." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ************************************************************************************ >> This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by >> PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & >> computer viruses. >> >> ************************************************************************************ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ************************************************************************************ >> This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by >> PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & >> computer viruses. >> >> ************************************************************************************ >> >> >> >> >> >> ************************************************************************************ >> This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by >> PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & >> computer viruses. >> >> ************************************************************************************ >> >> >> >
