logical?  Me?   Hum, glad I watched every Star Trek episode...even the
cartoons!   Live Long and Prosper

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Hardy, Tim <tha...@comsearch.com> wrote:

>  Sounds logical – a 3’ dish at 2° would be down about 10 dB and at 3°
> about 20 dB according to the pattern
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:14 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Smart guys on lost question
>
>
>
> Hum...I have always used it this way and have good results.  I know from
> experience that "funny things" happen above 10GHz...guess all this new
> fangled stuff is showing my age.
>
>
>
> but I still hold that monopole moves just enough to affect stability of
> link.  That's my story and I am sticking to it..
>
>
>
> Thanks gents....I feel more confident for tomorrows presentation.
>
>
>   Jaime Solorza
>
> Wireless Systems Architect
>
> 915-861-1390
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Hardy, Tim <tha...@comsearch.com> wrote:
>
> The urban area figure you’re using includes clutter – not applicable to a
> los microwave path.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:00 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Smart guys on lost question
>
>
>
> Wow ..close... I come up with 132.89 dB FSL and 143.41 dB urban area FSL
> ..so I guess if I back out the 2dB loss I am within 1.2dB of the
> calculations sent to me.
>
>
>
> Okay  i am close.  Cool...I can still add and subtract..yeah me!
>
>
>   Jaime Solorza
>
> Wireless Systems Architect
>
> 915-861-1390
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> I have never had problems using simple free space path loss for these
> frequencies.
>
> I doubt there is significant cable or waveguide loss.
>
> Dragonwaves mount to the antenna and the gain of the antenna is at the
> interface.
>
>
>
> 96.6 + 20logD + 20log F  Where F & D are GHz and Miles.
>
>
>
> 96.6 + 10.5 + 25.1 = 132.2 dB
>
>
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 04, 2015 9:31 AM
>
> *To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Smart guys on lost question
>
>
>
> Hello Smart Dudes on the list:
>
> Running a 3.348 mile path for 18 Ghz Dragonwave link to compare what
> someone else came up with.    I am wondering if they used just unfaded free
> space loss calculation and coming up with a figure 10dB better than mine,
> I am using unfaded urban area free space loss for mime.  I use just free
> space loss we are within 3db of each other.  I added 1 db of cable loss
> since I do not know if waveguide was used or many other details.  I will
> get all that information on site.
>
> I have always engineered paths on conservative side since the start.
>
>
>
> What are your thoughts  Hobson?
>
>
>
> Thx
>
>
>
>
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> Wireless Systems Architect
>
> 915-861-1390
>
>
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>
>

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