So is there any way to get software updates outside of the SLA? On Wednesday, March 4, 2015, Patrick Leary <patrick.le...@telrad.com> wrote:
> Not trying to be cagey below; I'm just cautious. If I answer that > question, it is a lot like answering when I stopped beating my wife. If I > answered, competion would be cutting and pasting to make it look like we > charge SLAs JUST for software updates. We do not. > > Patrick Leary > M 727.501.3735 > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of > Patrick Leary > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 1:04 PM > To: af@afmug.com <javascript:;> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k > > There is no SLA for just firmware updates. > > Patrick Leary > M 727.501.3735 > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of Matt > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 1:01 PM > To: af@afmug.com <javascript:;> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k > > How much is the SLA for firmware updates? > > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Patrick Leary <patrick.le...@telrad.com > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > No. SLA, yes, but SLAs are normal to maintain support and to get > software upgrades (not just bug fixes)...and in our case, soon network > monitoring free for the first year from our own data center. > > > > Patrick Leary > > M 727.501.3735 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of Matt > > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 11:44 AM > > To: af@afmug.com <javascript:;> > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k > > > >> Quite not the case. Ever price typical LTE? And our licenses you own > once first bought, with no annual renewals. > > > > Thought there was an annual license fee to get firmware updates etc? > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> Patrick Leary > >> > >> M 727.501.3735 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of TJ > Trout > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 11:25 PM > >> To: af@afmug.com <javascript:;> > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k > >> > >> > >> > >> The sauce better be really really good with all of those licenses. > >> Seems like u have a license for just about everything ? :) > >> > >> On Mar 3, 2015 8:20 PM, "Jason McKemie" < > j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com <javascript:;>> wrote: > >> > >> Is there frequency re-use with a 3 BTS setup? If there is re-use, > what's the penalty? > >> > >> On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net > <javascript:;>> wrote: > >> > >> 3x 65s for 360* coverage. > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- > >> Mike Hammett > >> Intelligent Computing Solutions > >> http://www.ics-il.com > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com <javascript:;>> > >> To: af@afmug.com <javascript:;> > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 9:07:51 PM > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k > >> > >> Is there a 90 degree sector or are you using 65 degree sectors in a 4 > BTS cluster? > >> > >> On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Patrick Leary <patrick.le...@telrad.com > <javascript:;>> wrote: > >> > >> Only 2 models, the 3.65 (actually 3.4-3.7) COMPACT 1000 or the 2.x > >> (2.3 and 2.5) COMPACT 3000. I included the 3.65 version. The 2.5 is > >> all the same, save for the BTS price, which is about $5k higher (but > >> 40 dBm per port and 43 pounds of brute power, compared to the 18 > >> pound COMPACT 1000) > >> > >> > >> > >> Patrick Leary > >> > >> M 727.501.3735 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of > Jason McKemie > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:36 PM > >> To: af@afmug.com <javascript:;> > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k > >> > >> > >> > >> Which base station are you quoting, and what are the basic differences > between the models? > >> > >> On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Patrick Leary <patrick.le...@telrad.com > <javascript:;>> wrote: > >> > >> Think of all the EPC options (and there are 3 forms) as shells: > >> > >> > >> > >> 1 is an shell embedded as a piece of software inside EACH BTS...a total > one box solution (we can do that since we are a SDR). > >> > >> 1 is a shell that's a small (1/2U) appliance supporting up to 10k subs > and 2 gigs. These are stackable and with our NPV option is infinitely > stackable. > >> > >> > >> > >> Into each shell option you plug in ONLY the functionality you need: > >> > >> > >> > >> Connecting to an external Radius? Buy that module. Don't need to? Don't > get it. > >> > >> If not above, then doing MAC level authentication instead? Buy the > iHSSS module. > >> > >> PCRF module. Doing service flows and dedicated bearers? Get that. > Don't, then don't. > >> > >> Need Layer 2, get that. Don't? Dont. > >> > >> > >> > >> These modules are in price relative to the version of EPC (baby, momma > or papa bear size). > >> > >> > >> > >> Patrick Leary > >> > >> M 727.501.3735 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of > Jason McKemie > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:23 PM > >> To: af@afmug.com <javascript:;> > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k > >> > >> > >> > >> Never mind, I see that now. How much is the 50 user license? > >> > >> On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Jason McKemie < > j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com <javascript:;>> wrote: > >> > >> Is the 50 user limit just a guideline or a software limitation? > >> > >> On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Patrick Leary <patrick.le...@telrad.com > <javascript:;>> wrote: > >> > >> One BTS, included embedded EPC with MAC level authentication (cheapest > option) supporting up to 50 clients. Antenna could be swapped for any > other. NOTE: this exclude any NMS pieces, but you could just connect over > Telnet or direct connect. This would be the BAREST of bones, but there it > is. That's still LTE and about 100 Mbps with killer NLOS. > >> > >> > >> > >> Includes: > >> > >> > >> > >> 735270 > >> > >> CMP.XT-BS-3.4-3.7 > >> > >> 1 > >> > >> 715773 > >> > >> LTE COMPACT SW License > >> > >> 1 > >> > >> 700258 > >> > >> BMAX-4M-GPS > >> > >> 1 > >> > >> 300736 > >> > >> ANT 3.3-3.8GHz,18 dBi, 65deg, 4ports > >> (RF cables NOT included) > >> > >> 1 > >> > >> 715620 > >> > >> BreezeWay-1010-50 > >> (per Compact HW license) > >> > >> 1 > >> > >> 715621 > >> > >> BreezeWay-1010-iHSS-50 > >> (50 subs. license) > >> > >> 1 > >> > >> SLA > >> > >> 1 Year SLA > >> > >> 1 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Patrick Leary > >> > >> M 727.501.3735 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of > Patrick Leary > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:08 PM > >> To: af@afmug.com <javascript:;> > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback > >> > >> > >> > >> No, could be much less. Give me a minute... > >> > >> > >> > >> Patrick Leary > >> > >> M 727.501.3735 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of > Josh Luthman > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:05 PM > >> To: af@afmug.com <javascript:;> > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback > >> > >> > >> > >> Probably 20k to start. Quality over quantity. > >> > >> Josh Luthman > >> Office: 937-552-2340 > >> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >> 1100 Wayne St > >> Suite 1337 > >> Troy, OH 45373 > >> > >> On Mar 3, 2015 8:56 PM, "John Woodfield" <john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz > <javascript:;>> wrote: > >> > >> Patrick, > >> > >> > >> > >> I haven't had time to read through all this emails. Can you summarize > what the lowest cost get up and running on a tower is so I can consider > this further along with cost per sub? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> John Woodfield, President > >> > >> Delmarva WiFi Inc. > >> > >> 410-870-WiFi > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: "Patrick Leary" <patrick.le...@telrad.com <javascript:;>> > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:41pm > >> To: "af@afmug.com <javascript:;>" <af@afmug.com <javascript:;>> > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback > >> > >> Alvarion did that. I admit, I'm not a fan of capping Glen. It is a > gimmick. The hardware is what it is, and this hardware is expensive. 30dBm > per port. 4 tx/4rx. Power is expensive. The highest quality DSPs on the > market. not consumer grade stuff with the sensitivity of your in home Wi-Fi > router. We build our own phy from the ground up too, our own ATPC > algorithms too. > >> > >> > >> > >> On the software, we do that though -- enabling modularity and scale as > you need to. I think I need to do a dedicated webinar to this community to > walk you guys (or those inclined) through it (any takers?). I do not think > we can be a solution that makes sense where you only have 15 clients. > That's the blunt truth. Unless you are doing 50 Mbps customers, I am not > your micropop (but I can do that in some modest scale). That said, I wonder > where that 15 number comes from? Can you please explain on what > architecture that is based? Range? Height? Etc. If it is based on a > micropop and even then on what just that pop can see, I'd say that's likely > a model invented out of necessity due to the poor performance of the system > you are using. > >> > >> > >> > >> I had a guy on a call today. He zoomed me in on Google Earth to his > "NLOS" area. Farmland with wind breaks and shade trees for the homes. He is > at 400' and can't connect squat behind those breaks. In my world, that's > LOS all the way, even at 150 ft. It is total garbage that so many systems > to can't deal with that and you've all been fed that that is "normal." It > is not. It is just gear with terrible specs where the only R&D is at the > software level, and even that is scant. ....You do not have NLOS problems. > You have equipment problems. How such a product ever was allowed to go to > market as a "solution" for rural broadband is, to me, cynical and > reflective of playing a market to skim opportunistic dollars from a market > segment that sometimes seems to embrace abuse. Sort of like the poor 700 > MHz owners who got sucked in to buying 20 year old Marconi WipLL repackaged > as a 700 MHz "solution" because all there was to buy. Then vendors do that > crap and THEN, THEN tell you there's no backward compatibility when they > come out with something new? > >> > >> > >> > >> WISPs. Sometimes you guys drive me nuts. You are like cheerleaders that > love to date the quarterbacks who abuse you. That is like selling a car > that falls apart once you leave residential streets. None of you should > ever have accepted these golf carts to run your fleets. Sometimes, cheap is > just cheap. > >> > >> > >> > >> Boy, I'm gonna hear it from my vendor peers, but this ain't a game or > just a job for me. I damn sure hope it ain't that for you either. > >> > >> > >> > >> Patrick Leary > >> > >> M 727.501.3735 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of > Glen Waldrop > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:08 PM > >> To: af@afmug.com <javascript:;> > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback > >> > >> > >> > >> Sort of off topic, but what would be the smallest AP we could get? > >> > >> I'm thinking about using this system on a few of my towers to make sure > we never leave without a new customer, but I serve a very rural area. > >> > >> I have some towers with 15 clients. > >> > >> Is an omni + GPS sync or narrow channel out of the question? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> > >> From: Patrick Leary > >> > >> To: tel...@wispa.org <javascript:;> ; af@afmug.com <javascript:;> > >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 4:42 PM > >> > >> Subject: [AFMUG] New feedback > >> > >> > >> > >> This is an interesting bit of commentary from one of our new customers. > If he wishes to identify himself, he will.... > >> > >> > >> > >> Patrick Leary > >> > >> M 727.501.3735 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> From: > >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 2:31 AM > >> To: Patrick Leary; Nick Dewar > >> Subject: Interesting Statistic > >> > >> > >> > >> "Patrick / Nick – > >> > >> > >> > >> Our Director of Operations, which you both met in St Louis, sent out an > interesting email to our staff this evening. In February with only 20 > working days we completed 40 installs with one technician... This is only > icing on the cake, especially since we are onboarding two more techs... I > ran some additional numbers and found that out of the “Telrad” > installations that we scheduled, 100 % were successful both of these > months. This is a game changer, and it proves that we can eliminate the > need to waste further time with the dreaded site surveys. Our success is > not without the help of Telrad’s Compact solution. Truly amazing and > inspiring, excited for our aggressive expansion this spring/summer/fall. I > cannot wait to have hundreds of these damn things in the air. > >> > >> > >> > >> Excited and thankful to be a part of the LTE Beta, and am thankful for > the “Holy Grail” email that introduced us to the product...." > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ********************************************************************* > >> * > >> ************** This footnote confirms that this email message has > >> been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious > >> code, vandals & computer viruses. > >> ********************************************************************* > >> * > >> ************** > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ********************************************************************* > >> * > >> ************** This footnote confirms that this email message has > >> been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious > >> code, vandals & computer viruses. > >> ********************************************************************* > >> * > >> 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